BoneyardBrew Member Posted January 16, 2011 Member Share Posted January 16, 2011 D2D font rendering fixes have landed, expect build in a few hours. Awesome! It should land by the time I wake up tomorrow morning. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593596940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnast Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 No. He's on b10pre - meaning prerelease beta 10, updated nightly (atm barely different to beta 9). Well, there have been around 200 bug fixes since b9 :p But seriously, nothing most people would notice if you didn't tell them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593596944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xankazo Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Well, there have been around 200 bug fixes since b9 :p But seriously, nothing most people would notice if you didn't tell them. So, is it safer to use the betas or the nighties? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593596954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnast Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 So, is it safer to use the betas or the nighties? Well, the betas go through QA before being released so they are safer. I haven't had any real issues with the nightlies since I started using them months ago, but there's always a possibility something could go wrong. Just remember to back up your profile if you decide to regularly use nightlies. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593596966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmb219 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I've been using the nightly builds as my default browser for weeks and it is very stable. I've been seeing the progress and not had any problems. I only use lastpass and xmarks and they work with the latest versions. The only problems may be with extensions that don't work. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593596970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xankazo Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Well, the betas go through QA before being released so they are safer. I haven't had any real issues with the nightlies since I started using them months ago, but there's always a possibility something could go wrong. Just remember to back up your profile if you decide to regularly use nightlies. OK. Thanks for the fast reply. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593596972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznkid25 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I've figured out that the cause of my high memory usage in beta 9 is due to my add-ons. I've tried to disable them all, and enable them one by one, but no matter which one I do enable, the memory spikes back up to around 200,000k. Is there anything the FF developers can do about this, or is it in the hands of the individual add-on developers? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593596990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ad!k1337 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Been happy with the latest FF 4 B9 .... cpu usage is now in the acceptable level ... :woot: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593596994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udedenkz Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I've figured out that the cause of my high memory usage in beta 9 is due to my add-ons. I've tried to disable them all, and enable them one by one, but no matter which one I do enable, the memory spikes back up to around 200,000k. Is there anything the FF developers can do about this, or is it in the hands of the individual add-on developers? try turning on image discarding Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593597016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznkid25 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 try turning on image discarding Is that something I need to do in about:config? What is the exact phrase I should search for? Edit: image.mem.discardable by default is set to "true". Is this what you are referring to? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593597022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted January 16, 2011 Veteran Share Posted January 16, 2011 Please tell me this fixes the font-weight bug. What one is that? (the only one I know of, is possibly related to the Firefox button) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593597156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Is there a way to get the interface "compact" view on Mac? On Windows it appears only when maximized but I hope that's gonna be default in every case. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593597180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoapyHamHocks Member Posted January 16, 2011 Member Share Posted January 16, 2011 What one is that? (the only one I know of, is possibly related to the Firefox button) This is Segoe UI font-weight: 600. It worked fine a week or two ago. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593597224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted January 16, 2011 Veteran Share Posted January 16, 2011 Yeah, that certainly doesn't look right :/ I can still select the semi-bold variant here, I wonder what the difference is. Normal Weight - Semi-bold Weight - Bold Weight How does that render for you? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593597232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoapyHamHocks Member Posted January 16, 2011 Member Share Posted January 16, 2011 Yeah, that certainly doesn't look right :/ I can still select the semi-bold variant here, I wonder what the difference is. Normal Weight - Semi-bold Weight - Bold Weight How does that render for you? Well this is quite embarrassing, I misspelled 'Segoe UI' :blush: Thanks for the help :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593597244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted January 16, 2011 Veteran Share Posted January 16, 2011 :laugh: Yeah, that'll cause some problems :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593597246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punio4 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Wow.The font rendering in FF4 is horrible. The outlines are hazy, like someone inverted the RGB in Cleartype tuner. Looks especially sucky on light text on dark backgrounds... IE9's is loads better. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593597482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted January 16, 2011 Veteran Share Posted January 16, 2011 IE9 uses the exact same API to render text that Firefox 4 does, the results will be a pixel-perfect match for each other. brentaal and Punio4 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593597506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punio4 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 IE9 uses the exact same API to render text that Firefox 4 does, the results will be a pixel-perfect match for each other. Huh? I could've sworn... *looks at screenshots* Well a little autosuggestion goes a long way, now doesn't it... My bad. Anyways, I still prefer cleartype on sub-20pt type... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593597702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted January 16, 2011 Veteran Share Posted January 16, 2011 DirectWrite still uses ClearType (when possible that is), ClearType is just MS's name for sub-pixel anti-aliasing (which OS X/Linux/BSD/etc. do) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593597748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyDX Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 This is Segoe UI font-weight: 600. It worked fine a week or two ago. Say Soapy, how do I get that options menu? I'm running the latest nightly and still am on 3.6 style, am I missing something here? :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593597818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoapyHamHocks Member Posted January 16, 2011 Member Share Posted January 16, 2011 Say Soapy, how do I get that options menu? I'm running the latest nightly and still am on 3.6 style, am I missing something here? :laugh: A style of mine which you can grab here. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593597896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punio4 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I stand by my claim that Firefox4's font rendering is inferior to IE9s: The top one is IE9, the bottom one is FF4. Tracking and kerning is messed up, font weight too, and font hinting is non-existant. Just look at the 'w's and 'o's in the url bar. They're asymmetrical! Plus, the outlines are so hazy and light, it's hard to even look at. (URL bar example) +SOOPRcow 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593597914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyDX Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 A style of mine which you can grab here. Thanks! Went with the horizontal variant and it's lovely^^ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593597924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriz Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Loving the new layout, much prefer those tabs at the top (Y) bogas04 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/152/#findComment-593597936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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