+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted February 5, 2011 Subscriber² Share Posted February 5, 2011 does anyone else have a feeling there will be a beta 13? :no: id rather they move on to release candidate already and if they dont fix enough blockers in the first one create a second. There will not be a Beta 13. I expect one or two RC's. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593669604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattburles Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 There will not be a Beta 13. I expect one or two RC's. actually they have not ruled out the possibility of a beta 13 :\ "B12 has a small enough list of bugs that it's plausible it will be the last beta, though we're not locking that up, since some of the plugin work needs to crystallize before we can assess timing risk." https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Planning/2011-02-02 i personally am getting fed up with using firefox 3.6 :wacko: its so slow but i refuse to use beta software either. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593669674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnast Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Hovered links are now showing up at the bottom left. It's funny that I keep looking in the URL bar now for hovered links when I never really got used to them up there (or so I thought). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593669764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inklin Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I thought something had changed as stratiform is kinda broken with today's nightly. I disliked the bubble in the bottom left corner as I found it distracting so disabled it using stylish. now they have gotten rid of the hovered urls appearing in the url bar I have no way of telling if need be. I see no reason why they should have removed it from the url bar. I kinda feel this release is going backwards now in terms of the UI. :/ I hope somebody can make an add-on that brings back some of the scrapped features or it can be bought back as part of stratiform. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593669782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilara1988 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Well it was kinda strange to see loading messages in the lower left bar and look for hovered url in the adressbar.These both should be in the same place.The bottom left bar was the better choice and i like it.I have been using chrome for a while and got used to it showing those down there and i am happy now FF is showing them down there too. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593669810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted February 5, 2011 Subscriber² Share Posted February 5, 2011 I thought something had changed as stratiform is kinda broken with today's nightly. I disliked the bubble in the bottom left corner as I found it distracting so disabled it using stylish. now they have gotten rid of the hovered urls appearing in the url bar I have no way of telling if need be. I see no reason why they should have removed it from the url bar. I kinda feel this release is going backwards now in terms of the UI. :/ I hope somebody can make an add-on that brings back some of the scrapped features or it can be bought back as part of stratiform. Everyone hates that but Mozilla seems to now be a follower and stopped leading. There is an extension called Status4Evar that will fix part of this as well as an ext called URL Tooltip that will ease the distraction. I filed a Bug on this but Mozilla will not fix it. actually they have not ruled out the possibility of a beta 13 :\ "B12 has a small enough list of bugs that it's plausible it will be the last beta, though we're not locking that up, since some of the plugin work needs to crystallize before we can assess timing risk." https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Planning/2011-02-02 i personally am getting fed up with using firefox 3.6 :wacko: its so slow but i refuse to use beta software either. I use the Nightly builds and they are very stable and have been for quite some time. The Final release of Firefox 4 is scheduled by the end of February. I think that they will skip Beta 13 and go directly to an RC. Beta 12 should be out tomorrow or Tuesday. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593669828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattburles Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 oh yeah they did say they wont build beta 12 till the beta N blockers are all fixed and than the rest of the blockers are on the release candidate build. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593669848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnast Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Everyone hates that but Mozilla seems to now be a follower and stopped leading. There is an extension called Status4Evar that will fix part of this as well as an ext called URL Tooltip that will ease the distraction. I filed a Bug on this but Mozilla will not fix it. There were lots of complaints about the URL bar overlay. I haven't agreed with much of what the design team has done lately, but they seemed to really want to keep the links and status in the URL bar. I liked it, personally. I use a 1080p monitor with Firefox maximized and the Omnibar extension installed, so it didn't affect me, but it wasn't very practical for netbook users and the like. Also, Status4Evar seems to be broken now. I'm not getting anything in the bottom corner or the URL bar. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593669948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlem39s Finest Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 actually they have not ruled out the possibility of a beta 13 :\ "B12 has a small enough list of bugs that it's plausible it will be the last beta, though we're not locking that up, since some of the plugin work needs to crystallize before we can assess timing risk." https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Planning/2011-02-02 i personally am getting fed up with using firefox 3.6 :wacko: its so slow but i refuse to use beta software either. i know what you mean, ff 3.6 was pssing me off with how slow it was + crashing, also checking out this thread for new firefox awesomness didn't help. i've been using beta10 for the last 4 days (as my main browser), it actually seems more stable than 3.6 (but that's probably bcos of all extensions i had installed) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593669984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted February 5, 2011 Subscriber² Share Posted February 5, 2011 There were lots of complaints about the URL bar overlay. I haven't agreed with much of what the design team has done lately, but they seemed to really want to keep the links and status in the URL bar. I liked it, personally. I use a 1080p monitor with Firefox maximized and the Omnibar extension installed, so it didn't affect me, but it wasn't very practical for netbook users and the like. Also, Status4Evar seems to be broken now. I'm not getting anything in the bottom corner or the URL bar. S4E is not broken if you are using the latest release Status-4-Evar 2011.01.17.02.3 . There also is an extension called Status Address Bar 1.7 that places the status back into the URL Bar. S4E has an option to hide the other Status text. It seems that Mozilla does not know when they have a good thing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593669990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnast Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 ^ Ah, thanks. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593670046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattburles Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 i know what you mean, ff 3.6 was pssing me off with how slow it was + crashing, also checking out this thread for new firefox awesomness didn't help. i've been using beta10 for the last 4 days (as my main browser), it actually seems more stable than 3.6 (but that's probably bcos of all extensions i had installed) im just afraid to use beta software incase it brakes something or is really buggy.. i might upgrade once release candidate is out tho because there wont be much of a change between RC and Final.. wasnt 3.6 RC2 the same as 3.6 final just took off the RC name with no additional bug fixes, etc.? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593670324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted February 6, 2011 Subscriber² Share Posted February 6, 2011 oh yeah they did say they wont build beta 12 till the beta N blockers are all fixed and than the rest of the blockers are on the release candidate build. They already have 3 Beta 12 candidates. I was using one this morning. It is fast and stable. As previously stated B12 will be out either tomorrow or Tuesday. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593670334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattburles Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 They already have 3 Beta 12 candidates. I was using one this morning. It is fast and stable. As previously stated B12 will be out either tomorrow or Tuesday. there is no beta 12 yet.. you must be refearing to beta 11 and no it wont be out tomorrow is sunday.. it will be out monday afternoon sometime.. beta 12 is most likely to be out the week of feb 14 at the earliest. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593670344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted February 6, 2011 Subscriber² Share Posted February 6, 2011 there is no beta 12 yet.. you must be refearing to beta 11 and no it wont be out tomorrow is sunday.. it will be out monday afternoon sometime.. beta 12 is most likely to be out the week of feb 14 at the earliest. Yes you are right, Beta 11. Beta 11 will be out on Monday or Tuesday. Sorry for the confusion. There was talk about Beta 12 being out very soon/days after 11. We will see. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593670382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
revanmj Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 i dont think the final version will be out till early march now :unsure: This is why I ditched Firefox - Mozilla is simply way too slow. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593670416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattburles Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 This is why I ditched Firefox - Mozilla is simply way too slow. What did you Switch to? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593670466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoxt Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I don't get why people are getting so mad about it coming out later then expected. I'd rather have a product that is finished and less bugs, then a product that rushes out their product and has so many annoying bugs (like Google did with Chrome). The nightly builds of Firefox are almost completely stable for me atm and have no problem waiting for the final to come out, to work out the remaining major bugs. Omega192 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593670476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattburles Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I don't get why people are getting so mad about it coming out later then expected. I'd rather have a product that is finished and less bugs, then a product that rushes out their product and has so many annoying bugs (like Google did with Chrome). The nightly builds of Firefox are almost completely stable for me atm and have no problem waiting for the final to come out, to work out the remaining major bugs. Because any version other than 4.0 is slow and outdated and many people don't use beta software and want the final stable version already. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593670486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoxt Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Because any version other than 4.0 is slow and outdated and many people don't use beta software and want the final stable version already. Well, I'd rather wait for Mozilla to take their time fixing bugs, rather then releasing it already with bugs still not worked out. Either use another browser for the time being or simply wait. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593670494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattburles Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Well, I'd rather wait for Mozilla to take their time fixing bugs, rather then releasing it already with bugs still not worked out. Either use another browser for the time being or simply wait. I'm just waiting because I don't like the other browsers really Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593670502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted February 6, 2011 Subscriber² Share Posted February 6, 2011 I'm just waiting because I don't like the other browsers really Then you don't need to wait. If your not going to use it why wait. It is stable in it's present form and today's nightly is far superior than any other released browser on the market. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593670514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattburles Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I don't use beta software no matter how stable it might be. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593670538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattburles Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Ugh it posted twice Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593670540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xankazo Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Then you don't need to wait. If your not going to use it why wait. It is stable in it's present form and today's nightly is far superior than any other released browser on the market. That's right! Rock solid for me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/170/#findComment-593670686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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