Kaoxt Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 http://canweshipyet.com/ only 16 hard blockers left :whistle: I wish they'd add a couple more to that. The bouncing on the sides for aero is incredibly annoying when window is not maximized and the text rendering with Hardware acceleration off is pretty bad as well. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593715550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattburles Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I wish they'd add a couple more to that. The bouncing on the sides for aero is incredibly annoying when window is not maximized and the text rendering with Hardware acceleration off is pretty bad as well. It must be your computer I have not had either problems on mine. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593715572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoxt Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 It must be your computer I have not had either problems on mine. It's not my computer, it's known bugs already. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=632423 For instance go here and look on the left black menu: http://www.disney.co.uk/disney-parks/ Can't find the aero bouncing one atm. I'm talking about nightlies though not sure if your using beta or the nightlies. On nightly for instance if you hover over "Edit" button on here the aero part on left and right move or "bounce". Another annoying one is the entire Aero border is too thick: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=618353 All problems though sound like they will not be fixed until Firefox 5.0 though :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593715598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilara1988 Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Because they are not important. 1.I almost never use the browser not maximized so i don't see the "bouncing aero" 2.i don't care about border thickness because of 1. (is 1 pixel that big a difference?) 3.I use HA so i don't get this bug either Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593715628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattburles Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Well there are 2 blockers again and won't be fixed till tomorrow at least so beta 12 won't be built till Monday or Tuesday and a release the following Monday or Tuesday? Or will they release it quicker? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593715668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerowen Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Just tried watching a Flash video in the Beta 12 nightly and for some reason flash "flashes" in it. Using the same plugin on the stable version (3.6.13) it doesn't flicker. This is using Beta 12 64 bit on Ubuntu Linux. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593715754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoxt Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Because they are not important. 1.I almost never use the browser not maximized so i don't see the "bouncing aero" 2.i don't care about border thickness because of 1. (is 1 pixel that big a difference?) 3.I use HA so i don't get this bug either Well a lot of people do use their browser not maximized... and HA is terrible until they fix the bug where you can read text on white backgrounds without it being blurry. "About:home" looks awful on the address bar. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593716126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilara1988 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 For me text with HA is almost as good as without HA(maybe just used to it).And the border bugs are negligible (really 1 pix and the "bouncing" aero). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593717308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanel89 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 And the border bugs are negligible (really 1 pix and the "bouncing" aero). It's an issue of consistency. That's one thing I liked about OSX (though recently they've been diverging away from it), is that the UI is consistent (not trying to start a flame war, I'm a Windows 7 user through and through). In Windows, everything is all over the place. Yes it's only 1 pixel but it's NOT consistent with the rest of the windows and it needs to be addressed, same with the "bouncing" aero. Some people may not care about the visuals as long as the program works but the UI is what the user sees, it is critical and it kills me to see how inconsistent the UI is in Windows (going off topic beyond Firefox). Microsoft should implement some restrictions which wouldn't allow Mozilla programmers to have a thicker or thinner border and going beyond that such as custom themes (i.e. iTunes, Nokia Ovi Suite, Yahoo Messenger, Quicktime to name a few) flexkeyboard and Punio4 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593717852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpssst Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 It's an issue of consistency. That's one thing I liked about OSX (though recently they've been diverging away from it), is that the UI is consistent (not trying to start a flame war, I'm a Windows 7 user through and through). In Windows, everything is all over the place. Yes it's only 1 pixel but it's NOT consistent with the rest of the windows and it needs to be addressed, same with the "bouncing" aero. Some people may not care about the visuals as long as the program works but the UI is what the user sees, it is critical and it kills me to see how inconsistent the UI is in Windows (going off topic beyond Firefox). Microsoft should implement some restrictions which wouldn't allow Mozilla programmers to have a thicker or thinner border and going beyond that such as custom themes (i.e. iTunes, Nokia Ovi Suite, Yahoo Messenger, Quicktime to name a few) I completely agree about the inconsistent UI on Windows. It's a shame that most developers do not make a greater effort to make their software look like it belongs in Windows; such as those developers that insist on not having Aero borders. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593718608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macmax Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Currently I have disabled Hardware Acceleration. The reason is while browsing random websites the screen goes black for 2-3 seconds and resumes normal activity. I know many of you would point to faulty drivers, bad GPU etc. Below is the spec Windows 7 (64-bit) Lenovo T410 Nvidia NVS 3100M Driver running latest 8.15.10.2253 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593718938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkburn Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Currently I have disabled Hardware Acceleration. The reason is while browsing random websites the screen goes black for 2-3 seconds and resumes normal activity. I know many of you would point to faulty drivers, bad GPU etc. Make sure you report it to Mozilla. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593719582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semtex Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Some more info http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/NhVByZJTtgrtYGyIby25 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593719628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macmax Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Firefox 4.0b12pre 32bit Windows 7 64-bit V8 - 4400 Sunspider - 229ms Kraken - 6139ms Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593719928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznkid25 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 How can there be two parts to one bug? Right now there are two blockers. There's a part 1 and a part 2. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593720274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemutt Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 How can there be two parts to one bug? Right now there are two blockers. There's a part 1 and a part 2. bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=634590 failed automated tests after it landed. Bugs that fail tests generally spawn another bug to 'fix the tests' - thus part 2 part 2 bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=635582 to fix the tests. There is some discussion they might just drop this for 4.0 - but that's not been made for sure yet. Seems to be folks still pro & con on the issue. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593720616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattburles Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 :whistle: still waiting for beta 12.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593721786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoxt Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Anyone have any idea why the fonts still look horrible on Firefox 4 beta 11 / nightlies, but look great on IE9? I have HW acceleration on Fx4. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593722028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattburles Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 yeah i noticed the font is a little bit blurry on beta 11 and the nightlies too but i have no idea why it is like that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593722038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoxt Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 yeah i noticed the font is a little bit blurry on beta 11 and the nightlies too but i have no idea why it is like that. After looking into it more, apparently IE9 uses GDI type font on a ton of websites. Fx4 is not. I guess that explains it mostly for me at least, as I prefer how Firefox 3.6.x handles fonts, but cannot stand it's handling of fonts on menu's. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593722078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostWalker Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 after the latest nightly update my Fx4 is ****ed? -.- Look at the strange borders of the tabs, buttons and boxes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593722104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoxt Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 after the latest nightly update my Fx4 is ****ed? -.- Look at the strange borders of the tabs, buttons and boxes: Are you using HW acceleration? I had same problem, turned it off and they were gone. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593722110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattburles Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 i guess hardware acceleration is the main reason why they havent released FF4 yet although i have not had one problem with hardware acceleration besides the blurry font. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593722114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoxt Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 i guess hardware acceleration is the main reason why they havent released FF4 yet although i have not had one problem with hardware acceleration besides the blurry font. To me that's a big problem. :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593722116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattburles Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 To me that's a big problem. :p I doubt it will be fixed this late because a lot of bugs have been moved to FF 5 just to get 4 out the door by end of march maybe. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/184/#findComment-593722124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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