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Lovely Page about Firefox Development beyond beta 8 http://limi.net/arti...team-update-23/

Nice Visual description of remaining UI bugs (updates live!)

Main Window Bugs

Notifcation Bugs

Firefox Menu Button Bugs

Two things that don't seem to be there.

The bottom corners of the firefox button come to a point only when it's clicked. I guess that's intentional and not going to be fixed?

Not only that, but the newly implemented grey border would be nicer if the border around the toolbars weren't actually a little see through, which sometimes makes the edges of the toolbars and content area appear unaligned, depending on the background behind it...

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The bottom corners of the firefox button come to a point only when it's clicked. I guess that's intentional and not going to be fixed?

I believe intentional, because the menu is attached to it - if they kept the rounded corners, you'd have a 'dirty' look at the points they join. (In beta 7 there is a gap that shouldn't be there)

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I wonder if people at Mozilla HQ are panicking that they are unable to roll out FF4 in a timely fashion. I've never seen them roll out this many betas before. They need to start from scratch with Firefox 5 or its pretty much over for Mozilla.

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They need to start from scratch with Firefox 5 or its pretty much over for Mozilla.

haha, and after the 2 years or so it'd take to start from scratch, we'd have something equivalent to Mozilla 1.

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I wonder if people at Mozilla HQ are panicking that they are unable to roll out FF4 in a timely fashion. I've never seen them roll out this many betas before. They need to start from scratch with Firefox 5 or its pretty much over for Mozilla.

I think the more betas are intentional, IIRC they were scheduled even when the first beta got released. I think it's to follow user feedback better and such things.

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I wonder if people at Mozilla HQ are panicking that they are unable to roll out FF4 in a timely fashion. I've never seen them roll out this many betas before. They need to start from scratch with Firefox 5 or its pretty much over for Mozilla.

^ don't think so, they posted detailed outlines of whats going on, what needs to happen and the plan of action regarding development milestones. This development is taking this long because v4 skips and incorporates 3.7 features aswell that were planned. Starting from scratch is illogical at this point in time, firefox is active in the department of code cleanup and optimisation as they reach the end of releases, its just so many features are making its way into FF4 that the number of betas are actually a good thing. I don't understand "pretty much over", their marketshare won't magically vanish over night, and by the looks of things so far I am certain Mozilla won't drop the ball, hopefully.

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back to 2 blockers :no: get this out already before i switch to some other browser

Would you prefer them to put off fixing bugs and crashes until later so they can get a release out faster?

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Pleasantly surprised by it's performance too; tried the latest Chromium and Opera builds, and so far Firefox just feels all around smoother.

i completely agree. which is ultimately why i won't be leaving Firefox for any other browser any time soon.

because based on the stable versions of Chrome/Firefox... Firefox is definitely the overall smoother of the two.

Chrome you just notice random things with that it should not be doing. that don't happen on Firefox. like just one thing off the top of my head that i notice is that say your visiting a random page and then use the mouses center button to have it open another link in another tab and start opening a handful of pages like that at once and continue to say scroll down on the main page it has like random pauses/freezes (they are typically not a major issue or anything but it just gets a little annoying) here and there while those other pages are loading which should not happen. Firefox don't do stuff like that. i am sure there's probably other random stuff to but that was one of the main things i could think of off the top of my head and it does it consistently to but only when the pages are loading it seems that it acts up like i described.

because in overall smoothness of the browser i think Firefox definitely beats Chrome. (if Chrome could get rid of those random types of things. it would be a solid browser that would be more on par with Firefox)

Beta 8 present for Christmas would be a nice thing. :)

from a article i seen on a website (sometime last week) Firefox 4 Beta 8 'should' be out sometime this week as it was supposed to be out Dec 7th (or maybe it was the 9th) i believe but got delayed a little bit.

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i completely agree. which is ultimately why i won't be leaving Firefox for any other browser any time soon.

from a article i seen on a website (sometime last week) Firefox 4 Beta 8 'should' be out sometime this week as it was supposed to be out Dec 7th i believe but got delayed a little bit.

I doubt it, beta 8 has to go through Q and A before they sign off of whatever build. mostly like its not this week but the following after.

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I doubt it, beta 8 has to go through Q and A before they sign off of whatever build. mostly like its not this week but the following after.

looks like it will be end of dec or early jan than for beta 8.. they don't release during the week of christmas

also it has been over a month since we have seen a beta :wacko: beta 7 was released november 11

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I doubt it, beta 8 has to go through Q and A before they sign off of whatever build. mostly like its not this week but the following after.

so in other words your saying NOT BEFORE Dec 20th?

p.s. plus i heard they will have at least 2 beta's past BETA 8 before the RC stages.

they don't release during the week of christmas

in that case... most likely late December or early Jan :( ... hopefully late Dec as i am going to try out Firefox 4 for the first time once they release BETA 8. (mostly looking forward to the hardware acceleration features)

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here is what i think will happen

beta 8 - end of december / early jan

beta 9 - feb

beta 10 - march

rc 1 - april

final - may?

* beta 9, 10, rc1 based on us only getting one beta per month as of lately.

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here is what i think will happen

beta 8 - end of december / early jan

beta 9 - mid / late jan ?

beta 10 - early / mid feb ?

rc 1 - end of feb / early march ?

Plenty of time for the competition to gain a lead. Way to go, Mozilla. :wacko:

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Plenty of time for the competition to gain a lead. Way to go, Mozilla. :wacko:

not really if its released in may like i am thinking :sleep:

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And thats not even counting the months its already been in beta. Chrome is gaining on it.

chrome will be at version 20 by than at least :laugh:

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To all the people thinking that beta 8 will be out soon: the nightlies are still marked beta8pre. Until that changes to beta9pre don't expect a release in the near future.

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so in other words your saying NOT BEFORE Dec 20th?

p.s. plus i heard they will have at least 2 beta's past BETA 8 before the RC stages.

in that case... most likely late December or early Jan :( ... hopefully late Dec as i am going to try out Firefox 4 for the first time once they release BETA 8. (mostly looking forward to the hardware acceleration features)

I'm just guessing based on what Mozilla usually does with beta releases, we'll see what happens in tomorrow's/Monday meeting

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Gonna be reformatting at the end of the month but I dont know which browser I should use because firefox 3.6 sucks :( and I want to use stable build too bad no firefox 4

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Gonna be reformatting at the end of the month but I dont know which browser I should use because firefox 3.6 sucks :( and I want to use stable build too bad no firefox 4

Firefox v3.6 is still solid if you ask me when you look at overall smoothness of browser out of the stable builds.

p.s. but i think you will be fine with BETA 8 once it's out as i suspect that will be the build that will be a good time to test Firefox 4 out as it seemed from what i read that prior to Beta 7 it was fairly bad. but i figure with BETA 8 (which is when i am going to try it myself) will probably have the bulk of more obvious bugs gone i suspect.

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