Udedenkz Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 The font rendering for Firefox 4 Beta 9 hurts my eyes. :/ Beta 10 freeze is today, will have better font rendering. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593616300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I should point out that |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| is not normal text. I don't think it's surprising that DirectWrite isn't designed around displaying those perfectly. In the previous comparison, iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii was displayed next to it ... and it looked fine. It's still an unlikely collection of characters, but more realistic at least. Of course it's not ideal that |||||||| can look odd, but it's not the end of the world. Its not just lllllll that looks bad though, it just happens to be one of the examples that accentuates it the most. I can't even use firefox with hw accel enabled for too long it looks so bad it starts to hurt my eyes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593616310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenaes Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I just downloaded the latest nightly and the text definitely looks much better from what it looked like when I last tried it (beta 8). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593616632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenaes Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I'm actually VERY pleased with the latest nightly. Seems quite stable. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593616670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznkid25 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Beta 10 freeze is today, will have better font rendering. Where does it say that the Beta 10 freeze is today? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593616850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted January 21, 2011 Subscriber² Share Posted January 21, 2011 Where does it say that the Beta 10 freeze is today? http://christian.legnitto.com/blog/2011/01/20/firefox-4-beta-logistics/ Summary We?ll take the most recent green changeset from mozilla-central this Friday, 2011-01-21 at 2:00 pm PST and call that beta 10 The tree will close for < 15 minutes for this (if at all) We?ll freeze nightly updates at or around the changeset we branched from (likely only for the weekend) Any problems with the beta will be dealt with on the relbranch [*]We will release beta 10 as soon as possible during the week of the 24th [*]We?ll take the most recent green changeset from mozilla-cental on Friday, 2011-01-28 at 2:00 pm PST (or sooner if the remaining betaN hardblockers are finished) and call that beta 11 The tree will close for < 15 minutes for this (if at all) We?ll freeze nightly updates at or around the changeset we branched from (likely only for the weekend) Any problems with the beta will be dealt with on the relbranch [*]We will release beta 11 as soon as possible during the week of the 31st Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593616888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee G. Veteran Posted January 21, 2011 Veteran Share Posted January 21, 2011 I have a couple of Firefox 4.0 beta related questions. Is there any way to clear old history? (i.e. history after a certain amount of days) just like you can clear recent history? Also, is there is any way to manually "refresh" the location bar history? My Neowin.net entry says "Driver Error", because there I received a driver error last month, and the location bar hasn't changed the title since. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593616930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnast Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 ^ It should update automatically. If not, you can just delete the entry and it should work properly afterwards. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593617064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattburles Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 we should see the first release candidate build of beta 10 tonight... https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_4b10/Test_Plan the final release could be on the 25th at the earliest :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593617278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattburles Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 we should see the first release candidate build of beta 10 tonight... https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_4b10/Test_Plan the final release could be on the 25th at the earliest :) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=FIXED,VERIFIED&chfieldfrom=2011-01-10%2019%3A40&chfield=resolution&query_format=advanced&chfieldto=Now&product=Core&product=Firefox&product=NSPR&product=NSS&product=Toolkit there is the list of what is fixed in beta 10! 551 bugs! :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593617438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattburles Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=FIXED,VERIFIED&chfieldfrom=2011-01-10%2019%3A40&chfield=resolution&query_format=advanced&chfieldto=Now&product=Core&product=Firefox&product=NSPR&product=NSS&product=Toolkit there is the list of what is fixed in beta 10! 551 bugs! :) Now up to 556 bugs fixed and the release candidate of beta 10 is currently being built! :) https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_4.0b10/BuildNotes Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593617790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilara1988 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Anyone else not getting the save tabs on exit prompt with 2011-01-21 build of minefield?I know there is a checkbox whether to show up that prompt again, but i never checked it.How do i make it appear again "IF" i have checked it? I don't see an option in the menus to enable that prompt again if you disabled it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593617950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznkid25 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Build 1 for Windows is now up. It's unsigned though: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/4.0b10-candidates/build1/unsigned/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%204.0%20Beta%2010.exe Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593618012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Khan Reviews Posted January 22, 2011 Reviews Share Posted January 22, 2011 Bah, Does anyone know how to disable extension compatibility checking? The usual about:config method doesn't work like it does in 3.6! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593618042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewism Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Add extensions.checkCompatibility.4.0b and set to False Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593618060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted January 22, 2011 Veteran Share Posted January 22, 2011 I should point out that |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| is not normal text. I don't think it's surprising that DirectWrite isn't designed around displaying those perfectly. In the previous comparison, iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii was displayed next to it ... and it looked fine. It's still an unlikely collection of characters, but more realistic at least. Of course it's not ideal that |||||||| can look odd, but it's not the end of the world. Yeah, they're "worst case scenarios", I took the pipe example from the Mozilla bug on the issue, but the list of i's come from an article about proper glyph rendering (and as an example, how terrible GDI is, by showing off the lack of sub-pixel positioning with a string of lowercase, italic "i") But since the crazy colours some people are having aren't related to the drivers like I thought, people should try the cleartype tuner to go back to the default settings. The results you guys are getting isn't normal. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593618164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Anyone else not getting the save tabs on exit prompt with 2011-01-21 build of minefield?I know there is a checkbox whether to show up that prompt again, but i never checked it.How do i make it appear again "IF" i have checked it? I don't see an option in the menus to enable that prompt again if you disabled it. If u have HTML5 Addon by Microsoft , that is causing it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593618274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted January 22, 2011 Veteran Share Posted January 22, 2011 That dialog was disabled by Mozilla. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593618284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Edit : use this "browser.warnOnQuit;true" Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593618296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis W. Veteran Posted January 22, 2011 Veteran Share Posted January 22, 2011 About ClearType, pop into the registry editor and navigate to HKCU\Control Panel\Desktop. Does everyone have 1000 (decimal) for FontSmoothingGamma? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593618326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznkid25 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Has the way Firefox stores the browser cache changed in beta 9/10? I've been experiencing this problem where when I run CCleaner, it doesn't pick up any of the cache files from firefox. Anyone else experiencing this problem? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593618346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted January 22, 2011 Veteran Share Posted January 22, 2011 About ClearType, pop into the registry editor and navigate to HKCU\Control Panel\Desktop. Does everyone have 1000 (decimal) for FontSmoothingGamma? That value's 0 for me, I can't see 1000 being correct (If they divide by 1000, that gives you a gamma of 1.0, which is completely wrong as well, it should be something like 2.2) Edit: And no, I don't think anything has changed about the cache. Edit: Ok, According to MS the value is divided by 1000, and the valid ranges are 1000 to 2200, giving gamma values of 1.0 to 2.2. That all sounds correct, but it doesn't explain why my value is 0 and I get good results, and why your value is 1000 and you get bad results) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593618366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deo Domuique Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 What's the entire key to check it out too? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593618494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilara1988 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 That dialog was disabled by Mozilla. Thank you. browser.warnOnQuit;true did the trick.I wonder why mozilla decided to make the default not to ask to save tabs on exit???This is one of the best features i use in FF.I even use a session store addon on my chrome which is far from what i want, but still can get my tabs after exit. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593618786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl-Johan Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 That value's 0 for me, I can't see 1000 being correct (If they divide by 1000, that gives you a gamma of 1.0, which is completely wrong as well, it should be something like 2.2) Edit: And no, I don't think anything has changed about the cache. Edit: Ok, According to MS the value is divided by 1000, and the valid ranges are 1000 to 2200, giving gamma values of 1.0 to 2.2. That all sounds correct, but it doesn't explain why my value is 0 and I get good results, and why your value is 1000 and you get bad results) Setting this value to 2200 and afterwards adjusting cleartype to the strongest text made my Firefox fonts look so much better. Using Calibri 16 in Firefox. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/157/#findComment-593618886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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