Wakers Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I thought they'd fixed slow start up times? Been using beta 12 for about a week (fully clean install), and it's gone back to taking up to 7 seconds to start (Phenom II X955 BE, 4GB 800mhz RAM). Not good enough really. I've had Chrome installed on the same machine and used it daily for about 6 months, and it starts in less than a second. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593762244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayscale Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Mine starts at about 4-6 seconds. Chrome (with extensions and web apps) loads its window in a snap but is irresponsive for about 2 seconds (bookmarks does not load right away). With all due respect, I don't really get this hate for firefox merely because it takes roughly 5-7 seconds at startup cause it's not as if opening your browser (warm boot) is a matter of life and death to the point that 7 seconds is so precious. A browser isn't all about start up time (again, warm boot). But then again, as I've said before, browser choice is all about user satisfaction so I respect other people's views. Hawk999, +Thom Vee and tyler78 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593762254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted March 6, 2011 Author Share Posted March 6, 2011 Holy Cow!! have a look at this!! https://mozillademos.org/demos/dashboard/demo.html Mine starts at about 4-6 seconds. Chrome (with extensions and web apps) loads its window in a snap but is irresponsive for about 2 seconds (bookmarks does not load right away). With all due respect, I don't really get this hate for firefox merely because it takes roughly 5-7 seconds at startup cause it's not as if opening your browser (warm boot) is a matter of life and death to the point that 7 seconds is so precious. A browser isn't all about start up time (again, warm boot). But then again, as I've said before, browser choice is all about user satisfaction so I respect other people's views. exactly , who wants f1 for a long peaceful journey and not a limo :| Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593762262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayscale Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 exactly , who wants f1 for a long peaceful journey and not a limo :| This. Holy Cow!! have a look at this!! https://mozillademos.org/demos/dashboard/demo.html Read it somewhere but forgot to check it out. Awesome. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593762284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkburn Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 My bad. I meant memory. High memory usage to me is about 200,000k, with one or two tabs open after a few minutes of usage. That doesn't sound too crazy, if you're navigating around sites during those few minutes. Been using beta 12 for about a week (fully clean install) What do you mean by fully clean install exactly? No existing profile? Edit: I feel like I should mention, on a new profile I started with Fx4 beta back in October (but with many synced bookmarks from another laptop, upgraded through to RC1), my startup times (with several addons, and about 10-15 immediate tabs) are about 1-2 seconds for everything to appear. (Followed by sites finishing loading). It certainly doesn't feel slow. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593762610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yowanvista Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 FF4 is coming soon http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/comingsoon/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593762780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted March 6, 2011 Author Share Posted March 6, 2011 FF4 is coming soon http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/comingsoon/ :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593762802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis Mazza Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I thought they'd fixed slow start up times? Been using beta 12 for about a week (fully clean install), and it's gone back to taking up to 7 seconds to start (Phenom II X955 BE, 4GB 800mhz RAM). Not good enough really. I've had Chrome installed on the same machine and used it daily for about 6 months, and it starts in less than a second. Then use Chrome, because it starts in less then a second. Isn't it just wonderful? :sleep: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593762822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysiskatten Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Then use Chrome, because it starts in less then a second. Isn't it just wonderful? :sleep: try make new profile in fx Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593762954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigYoSpeck Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Mine starts at about 4-6 seconds. Chrome (with extensions and web apps) loads its window in a snap but is irresponsive for about 2 seconds (bookmarks does not load right away). With all due respect, I don't really get this hate for firefox merely because it takes roughly 5-7 seconds at startup cause it's not as if opening your browser (warm boot) is a matter of life and death to the point that 7 seconds is so precious. A browser isn't all about start up time (again, warm boot). But then again, as I've said before, browser choice is all about user satisfaction so I respect other people's views. To be honest it can be done quicker it depends on the conditions. I have Firefox 4b set to open up with all previous tabs when I start it and it clears active logins and cache when it closes. If I close it now with 20 tabs open and open it again it loads in 1 second and all 20 tabs are fully loaded and drawn in 5. From a fresh reboot of Windows it took 3 seconds to open and 10 for every page to be loaded and drawn. The page loading/drawing is also a factor caused by the size of my hosts file (~600kb) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593763214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattburles Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 :) Is this page for the RC coming soon or the final? I think it's for RC. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593763242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamp0 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I am still using Beta 12, and when using the find box to search the page it will at times find a match with in a link, and because that link is highlighted the little status address thing pops up and covers the highlighted word. Also ctrl+f should close find box if it's open. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593763268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkburn Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I am still using Beta 12, and when using the find box to search the page it will at times find a match with in a link, and because that link is highlighted the little status address thing pops up and covers the highlighted word. Not seeing that issue - I don't get a link target popup when Ctrl+F finds linked text. On RC1. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593763418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skittelor Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Are they not going to put the blur underneath the "glass" in these things?: Where do I get the builds with all that eye-candy incorporated into it? Are those tryserver builds or others? I'm a little disappointed since the doorhanger style download manager and other stuff is not going to make it into Fx4. :no: "Are We Pretty Yet?"... Psssh! Yeah right! :angry: Konstantine 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593763472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamp0 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Not seeing that issue - I don't get a link target popup when Ctrl+F finds linked text. On RC1. On further testing, it only seems to happen when using F3 to "find next", and not when using the "next" button. Perhaps they fixed it in the RC though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593763506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nub Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Annoyances Title is not displayed in the title bar Extensions are broked (but this is expected) edit: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/titlebar-text/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593763952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaAddict Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Annoyances Title is not displayed in the title bar Extensions are broked (but this is expected) edit: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/titlebar-text/ The title bar text seems unnecessary given two reasons: the FF window is likely to be maximized for majority of the time so you won't see it and the tab title text is already sufficient. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593764064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nub Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 The title bar text seems unnecessary given two reasons: the FF window is likely to be maximized for majority of the time so you won't see it and the tab title text is already sufficient. When I have multiple tabs on I can't read the titles. Just the first word or so. Its annoying as hell. Also, I don't have tabs on top. My new annoyance is that that bookmarks don't open in a dropdown menu. I find the new UI overall annoying. Makes everything much more difficult to use. It looks pretty, but I don't want to handicap usability for looks. edit: I give up, re-enabling the menu bar. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593764070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayscale Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 My new annoyance is that that bookmarks don't open in a dropdown menu. Right click -> customize -> find the bookmarks icon with the arrow on it's right -> grab it and place it wherever you want Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593764100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udedenkz Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 edit: I give up, re-enabling the menu bar. you can hide it (not re-enabling it) and use alt-key to access it any time, like in Windows Explorer on W7 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593764102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleNeutrino Veteran Posted March 7, 2011 Veteran Share Posted March 7, 2011 Just moved to build 1 of the rc and its actually rather stable for me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593764106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nub Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Right click -> customize -> find the bookmarks icon with the arrow on it's right -> grab it and place it wherever you want The icon disappears as when I hit the Done button. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593764116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayscale Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 When I have multiple tabs on I can't read the titles. Just the first word or so. Its annoying as hell. Also, I don't have tabs on top. Personal Titlebar right click -> customize-> find Title Bar text-> grab and put it wherever you please My new annoyance is that that bookmarks don't open in a dropdown menu. I find the new UI overall annoying. Makes everything much more difficult to use. It looks pretty, but I don't want to handicap usability for looks. see my post above edit: I give up, re-enabling the menu bar. see Udedenkz post above. You can always ask first. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593764124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancode20 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I'm trying to get multi-row bookmark toolbars to work with Firefox 4 RC Build 1. Can someone try this stylish and confirm that it works? http://userstyles.org/styles/29428 Can you add any bookmark/rss feed to multiple toolbars? For example, could I have my Livemarks (RSS Feeds) on one toolbar, then bookmarks on another right below it? Is there a limit to how many toolbars you can have? Let me know. Thanks! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593764126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayscale Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 The icon disappears as when I hit the Done button. It's because you have the bookmarks toolbar enabled. If you have it enabled, the 'dropdown' will be on the far right of your bookmarks bar. I'm trying to get multi-row bookmark toolbars to work with Firefox 4 RC Build 1. Can someone try this stylish and confirm that it works? http://userstyles.org/styles/29428 Can you add any bookmark/rss feed to multiple toolbars? For example, could I have my Livemarks (RSS Feeds) on one toolbar, then bookmarks on another right below it? Is there a limit to how many toolbars you can have? Let me know. Thanks! With all due respect, why don't you try that stylish yourself? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/203/#findComment-593764136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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