The_Decryptor Veteran Posted July 15, 2010 Veteran Share Posted July 15, 2010 I completely forgot about that page, it would have been useful for me a couple of times in the last few days. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592906386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 Fatvals landed to TM (the black graph in arewefastyet.com) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592906516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 Many TM and FatVals changes might land in today's nightly , so start benchmarking :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592907144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hammond Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Is there a gmail notifier that works for this yet, im using the windows system tray one and its crap. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592907148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 Bit old news maybe , but still Mac to get Tabs on top in Beta 2 (july 22) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592907150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mNiosu Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Is there a gmail notifier that works for this yet, im using the windows system tray one and its crap. I got Gmail Notifier to work on beta by installing it on the 3.6.4 (I have both versions installed) with the install.rdf file modified (max version 4.1) and is now working just fine on FF4.0b1. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592907624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Heartripper Subscriber¹ Posted July 15, 2010 Subscriber¹ Share Posted July 15, 2010 I took the patch from here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=574681 and extracted the css, and got this: @namespace url(http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul); #appmenu-button { border: 2px solid !important; border-top: none !important; -moz-border-left-colors: rgba(255,255,255,.5) rgba(83,42,6,.9) !important; -moz-border-bottom-colors: rgba(255,255,255,.5) rgba(83,42,6,.9) !important; -moz-border-right-colors: rgba(255,255,255,.5) rgba(83,42,6,.9) !important; -moz-box-shadow: 0 1px 0 rgba(255,255,255,.25) inset, 0 0 2px 1px rgba(255,255,255,.25) inset !important; } #appmenu-button { -moz-appearance: none !important; background-image: -moz-linear-gradient(rgb(247,182,82), rgb(215,98,10) 95%) !important; background-clip: padding-box !important; -moz-border-radius: 0 0 4px 4px !important; border: 1px solid rgba(83,42,6,.9) !important; border-top: none !important; -moz-box-shadow: 0 1px 0 rgba(255,255,255,.25) inset, 0 0 0 1px rgba(255,255,255,.25) inset !important; color: white !important; font-weight: bold !important; text-shadow: 0 0 1px rgba(0,0,0,.7), 0 1px 2px rgba(0,0,0,.5) !important; padding: .1em 1.5em .15em 1.5em !important; margin: 0 !important; } #appmenu-button:-moz-window-inactive { background: transparent !important; background-clip: padding-box !important; border-color: rgba(0,0,0,.4) !important; } #appmenu-button:hover:not(:active):not([open]), #appmenu-button:hover:-moz-window-inactive:not(:active):not([open]) { background-image: -moz-radial-gradient(center bottom, farthest-side, rgba(252,240,89,.5) 10%, rgba(252,240,89,0) 70%), -moz-radial-gradient(center bottom, farthest-side, rgb(236,133,0), rgba(255,229,172,0)), -moz-linear-gradient(rgb(246,170,69), rgb(209,74,0) 95%) !important; border-color: rgba(83,42,6,.9) !important; -moz-box-shadow: 0 1px 0 rgba(255,255,255,.1) inset, 0 0 2px 1px rgba(250,234,169,.7) inset, 0 -1px 0 rgba(250,234,169,.5) inset !important; } #appmenu-button:hover:active, #appmenu-button[open] { background-image: -moz-linear-gradient(rgb(246,170,69), rgb(209,74,0) 95%) !important; -moz-border-radius: 0 !important; -moz-box-shadow: 0 2px 4px rgba(0,0,0,.4) inset, 0 1px 1px rgba(0,0,0,.2) inset !important; } Anyway i can't get rid of the damn 1px space above the button :s Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592909384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoapyHamHocks Member Posted July 15, 2010 Member Share Posted July 15, 2010 I took the patch from here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=574681 and extracted the css, and got this: Anyway i can't get rid of the damn 1px space above the button :s Try this: #main-window { margin-top: 1px !important; } Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592910068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Heartripper Subscriber¹ Posted July 15, 2010 Subscriber¹ Share Posted July 15, 2010 Try this: #main-window { margin-top: 1px !important; } thanks a lot! :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592910098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokn Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Guys , is it just me who thinks Firefox 3.6.6 is more responsive than 3.7 or even 4 beta ? and playing very nice with flash and java more than 3.7 & 4b ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592910458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown_97784568745 Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Guys , is it just me who thinks Firefox 3.6.6 is more responsive than 3.7 or even 4 beta ?Yes.and playing very nice with flash and java more than 3.7 & 4b ?Can't respond to that. I have neither installed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592910496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayayess1190 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Bit old news maybe , but still Mac to get Tabs on top in Beta 2 (july 22) Firefox 4 Beta 2, Due Next Week, Adds Tabs on Top for Macs Some other stuff due in Firefox 4 Beta 2: CSS transitions, better handling of retained layers on pages and a new feature in the add-ons manager that confirms when an add-on has been install Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592910774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udedenkz Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Retained Layers Have Landed Although, a warning, D2D is broken with the new builds. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592910928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted July 16, 2010 Supervisor Share Posted July 16, 2010 they seem to be having a lot of problems with D2D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592910954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udedenkz Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 they seem to be having a lot of problems with D2D Most use macs it seems. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592910960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown_97784568745 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Most use macs it seems. Yeah, I noticed that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592911158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udedenkz Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Yeah, I noticed that. Well, retained layers do make a huge difference though. Even at this stage, webpage rendering is snappy and scrolling performance is excellent. Hopefully that D2D bug will be fixed before Beta 2. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592911204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrrgh Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 D2D/DW seem to actually slow down normal browsing. I don't think that D2D/DW are worth the trouble unless you primarily surf on html5 graphics demo sites. Especially since some of the more annoying text rendering issues require Microsoft to update Windows itself (e.g. light text on dark background). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592911450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted July 16, 2010 Veteran Share Posted July 16, 2010 The Direct2D stuff shouldn't take that long to get fixed, a lot of graphics work has been done since it first started that's changed how the window is rendered about 3 times I think. It should be the easiest to fix now, the invalidation/scrolling no longer relies on the OS, it's now handled entirely by Firefox. Edit: And titlebars on OS X don't render correctly now, since it's smarter at repainting so it doesn't trigger the titlebar to update. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592911478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted July 16, 2010 Supervisor Share Posted July 16, 2010 Edit: And titlebars on OS X don't render correctly now, since it's smarter at repainting so it doesn't trigger the titlebar to update. i don't think that will matter, if i remember correctly, tabs on top for mac will eventually put the tabs in the titlebar removing that problem anyway correct me if I'm wrong though, i'm just going off of memory Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592911564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted July 16, 2010 Veteran Share Posted July 16, 2010 It's the same functionality, it's just theme stuff hasn't landed (and there's still going to be a titlebar, people didn't like it when Safari did it) The OS X build got it months ago, long before the Windows build. It's just used for light weight themes at the moment. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592911598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinaun Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 What are retained layers? What do they do? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592913434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted July 16, 2010 Veteran Share Posted July 16, 2010 It breaks the webpage up into different parts based on their position and how they move, and render each part into a separate part of memory. For example, a fixed background image would get it's own layer, and the text content on top would have it's own layer. When the browser scrolls, all it now has to do is copy the text layer over the background layer in a different position, vs. re-drawing the text layer from scratch. In effect, it reduces the need for the engine to repaint parts of the page, meaning all it ever really has to do is blend images together (which is also what graphics cards are very good at, which is they they eventually want to use OpenGL and Direct3D for all rendering). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592913554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 It breaks the webpage up into different parts based on their position and how they move, and render each part into a separate part of memory. For example, a fixed background image would get it's own layer, and the text content on top would have it's own layer. When the browser scrolls, all it now has to do is copy the text layer over the background layer in a different position, vs. re-drawing the text layer from scratch. In effect, it reduces the need for the engine to repaint parts of the page, meaning all it ever really has to do is blend images together (which is also what graphics cards are very good at, which is they they eventually want to use OpenGL and Direct3D for all rendering). Sounds good. Firefox's scrolling is very disappointing compared to opera's, especially on fixed image pages. (well at least its nor as horrible as chrome's) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592913570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted July 16, 2010 Veteran Share Posted July 16, 2010 Yeah, it's similar to what other browsers do, but smarter. Layers will also allow for 3D transforms, and hardware accelerated SVG filters (implement them as shaders, attach them to the layer for the object with the filter applied, let the GPU do the rest) Edit: Eventually of course, probably not in 4.0 final. It'll make stuff like TabCandy pretty damn fast though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/40/#findComment-592913602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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