kainashi Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 updated. :) wish adblock plus was working though. :pinch: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593020716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouettus Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 updated. :) wish adblock plus was working though. :pinch: well it should. try the latest dev builds. was working for me on Minefield pre3 until I updated to bogus pre4. that's when it killed it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593020730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoxt Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Is there a userstylish script that enables the progress bars in the betas yet? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593020802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted August 12, 2010 Supervisor Share Posted August 12, 2010 there was an addon that did it, (strata40 used it) but it has not been updated and has since become broken in the betas Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593020806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoxt Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Thanks! Yeah, I used to use that addon and it worked quite well. Just wanted to see if there was something for the betas yet. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593020808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted August 12, 2010 Supervisor Share Posted August 12, 2010 not that i know of Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593020818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawr_boy81 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Rumour has it that Electrolysis isn't going to be fully enabled in 4.0 - from what I have read full tab process isolation isn't come until Firefox 5.0 :( Why are they deliberately catrasting Firefox? it would have been the one big feature that would have relly pulled it ahead of Safari for me but since they've scrapped full Electrolysis, the release is rather crappy IMHO. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593020834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thino Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Disable AdBlock, it's broken. I just noticed this. Disabled it completely as it killed almost every single website. :/ it works correctly for me Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593020868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inklin Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Rumour has it that Electrolysis isn't going to be fully enabled in 4.0 - from what I have read full tab process isolation isn't come until Firefox 5.0 :( Why are they deliberately catrasting Firefox? it would have been the one big feature that would have relly pulled it ahead of Safari for me but since they've scrapped full Electrolysis, the release is rather crappy IMHO. That makes it seem like Mozilla are now rushing to get firefox 4.0 released, there's no need to rush IMO... they should really keep at it and so what if they miss the deadline for release, we can wait that little bit longer. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593020890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Rumour has it that Electrolysis isn't going to be fully enabled in 4.0 - from what I have read full tab process isolation isn't come until Firefox 5.0 :( Why are they deliberately catrasting Firefox? it would have been the one big feature that would have relly pulled it ahead of Safari for me but since they've scrapped full Electrolysis, the release is rather crappy IMHO. so we would had that same as Firefox 3.6.6 (OOPP) i thought they would had moved to the next step by now :/ so what we well have then for FF4 New UI + D2D/DW + revamped JS engine + new addon manager and that if D2D ever make it or it could easily drag to Firefox 4.5 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593020902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted August 12, 2010 Supervisor Share Posted August 12, 2010 in any case, ff4 has been a good jump Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593020916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawr_boy81 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 so we would had that same as Firefox 3.6.6 (OOPP)i thought they would had moved to the next step by now :/ so what we well have then for FF4 New UI + D2D/DW + revamped JS engine + new addon manager and that if D2D ever make it or it could easily drag to Firefox 4.5 Count yourself lucky that you get Direct2D/DirectWrite, Mac users get absolutely nothing. Once again us Mac users are treated like the b-astard red-headed step child of the family whom the Mozilla developers love to hate. Its been how long since Firefox 1.0 has shipped and it still runs like crap on Mac OS X. Why don't they just give up because it is clear to me that Mozilla developers are scum who don't give a crap about any other platform but Windows. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593020974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoxt Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Count yourself lucky that you get Direct2D/DirectWrite, Mac users get absolutely nothing. Once again us Mac users are treated like the b-astard red-headed step child of the family whom the Mozilla developers love to hate. Its been how long since Firefox 1.0 has shipped and it still runs like crap on Mac OS X. Why don't they just give up because it is clear to me that Mozilla developers are scum who don't give a crap about any other platform but Windows. Which is surprising as most of them seem to be using Macs as their primary computers. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593021010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motoko. Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 100 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593021020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawr_boy81 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Which is surprising as most of them seem to be using Macs as their primary computers. Then explain why it runs so utterly crap on Mac OS X - if the above were true then wouldn't it stand to reason that it should run well on Mac OS X? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593021026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inklin Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Count yourself lucky that you get Direct2D/DirectWrite, Mac users get absolutely nothing. Once again us Mac users are treated like the b-astard red-headed step child of the family whom the Mozilla developers love to hate. Its been how long since Firefox 1.0 has shipped and it still runs like crap on Mac OS X. Why don't they just give up because it is clear to me that Mozilla developers are scum who don't give a crap about any other platform but Windows. D2D/DirectWrite are Microsoft Windows only API's, how do you expect Mozilla to implement those in a browser on an OS that doesn't have the API's? Not Mozilla's problem... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593021046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted August 12, 2010 Veteran Share Posted August 12, 2010 Count yourself lucky that you get Direct2D/DirectWrite, Mac users get absolutely nothing. Once again us Mac users are treated like the b-astard red-headed step child of the family whom the Mozilla developers love to hate. Its been how long since Firefox 1.0 has shipped and it still runs like crap on Mac OS X. Why don't they just give up because it is clear to me that Mozilla developers are scum who don't give a crap about any other platform but Windows. OS X is the only platform getting out of process hardware accelerated composited plugins, It's definitely not being ignored like you continuously say. Electrolysis is mainly for mobile Firefox at the moment, after it's working on that they'll work on having the desktop version have it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593021090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawr_boy81 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 D2D/DirectWrite are Microsoft Windows only API's, how do you expect Mozilla to implement those in a browser on an OS that doesn't have the API's?Not Mozilla's problem... Where did I state that I wanted Direct2D/DirectWrite? how about reading the post instead of coming to stupid conclusions. I used the issue of Direct2D/DirectWrite as an example of Mozilla putting alot of effort into their Windows version but nothing when it comes to Mac OS X. OS X is the only platform getting out of process hardware accelerated composited plugins, It's definitely not being ignored like you continuously say.Electrolysis is mainly for mobile Firefox at the moment, after it's working on that they'll work on having the desktop version have it. Which is entirely useless for someone like me expecting (after the Firefox programmers promised) that'll arrive in Firefox 4.0. By the time full electrolysis does arrive Webkit2 will be stabilised and shipping - thus making it totally useless to my needs. Firefox had a window of opportunity for me and because of their pathetic incompetence that window is closing fast. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593021168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted August 12, 2010 Veteran Share Posted August 12, 2010 Have they ever promised it? I've only ever seen it mentioned in regards to Fennec. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593021192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Rumour has it that Electrolysis isn't going to be fully enabled in 4.0 - from what I have read full tab process isolation isn't come until Firefox 5.0 :( Why are they deliberately catrasting Firefox? it would have been the one big feature that would have relly pulled it ahead of Safari for me but since they've scrapped full Electrolysis, the release is rather crappy IMHO. Or they could make the browser stable so you don't need tab islolation, it's not a very useful feature really. and it makes the task manager horribly messy. isolating plugins, yes, isolation every tab, no. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593021224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted August 12, 2010 Veteran Share Posted August 12, 2010 I think they're aiming for a tab per domain (so 4 neowin tabs = 1 neowin process), And they're also aiming to run Jetpacks (newer HTML+CSS+JS based extensions) out of process. But there are more important issues for the desktop release (being able to push every tab but the active one out of memory doesn't mean much on a PC, but it means a whole bunch on an Android phone, etc.) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593021232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezzonovante Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Still having the Segoe UI font issue on Windows 7. The Windows Live website is being displayed in Tahoma instead of Segoe UI. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593021250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹ Posted August 12, 2010 Subscriber¹ Share Posted August 12, 2010 I think they're aiming for a tab per domain (so 4 neowin tabs = 1 neowin process), And they're also aiming to run Jetpacks (newer HTML+CSS+JS based extensions) out of process. But there are more important issues for the desktop release (being able to push every tab but the active one out of memory doesn't mean much on a PC, but it means a whole bunch on an Android phone, etc.) I thought jetpack was discontinued? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593021254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawr_boy81 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 I thought jetpack was discontinued? According to this: http://manik.surtani.org/2010/04/creditcardnanny-for-firefox.html It has only discontinued as an extension since it is now embedded right into the browser itself. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593021272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹ Posted August 12, 2010 Subscriber¹ Share Posted August 12, 2010 Ah, thanks. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/61/#findComment-593021274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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