XP_2600 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Silly me i found the plus appeared now, i think tabmix plus cause some changes in tabs behavior. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593032188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakuzing Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Silly me i found the plus appeared now, i think tabmix plus cause some changes in tabs behavior. you think? it is after all a tab extension :p in the past you could not remove the new tab button from the customize function, so used tabmix plus to do it :) that is why it was being hidden by the way New Tab button is not needed unless you use tabs on top because you can enable the double clicking on the tab bar to open a new tab - of course that is a matter of personal preference :p and the double clicking on the tab bar is not possible in win7 any more :( maybe tabs on top in XP still lets you double click there yeah it should Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593034700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XP_2600 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 you can enable the double clicking on the tab bar to open a new tab Hey thanks so much man, i never know this option before! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593034740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerFan Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 First off, i've been a devout Firefox user for several years now. I never use other browsers unless absolutely necessary. I hate the tabs on top. That change simply does not make sense to me. And, without any add-ons installed, i'm seeing a major memory leak. When i launch the app, task manager reports around 35mb of memory usage by firefox.exe. After a few minutes of browsing, that number climbs gradually to 150+ mb, even with only one tab open. I hope there's a 4th, 5th, and 6th Beta, because this is nowhere near ready for prime time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593034770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XP_2600 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Well, is there any comparison between FF4 and Chrome or Opera or other browsers to show how is the performance now ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593034782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthonyd Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Well, is there any comparison between FF4 and Chrome or Opera or other browsers to show how is the performance now ? YES http://arewefastyet.com/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593034804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XP_2600 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 So they are still slower ?! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593034844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vajlent Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Does anybody have a compatible AdBlock Plus for FF beta 3 or Minefield beta 4? and why isn't it possible to visit Windows Live, like Hotmail etc...? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593035138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XP_2600 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Now i don't like the tabs bar place, i think the address bar must back to its original location, is there any hack to do so ? when i move it from customize i got command menu between address bar and tabs bar!. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593035374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted August 16, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted August 16, 2010 Just fyi: There's a new Adblock Plus development build available at https://adblockplus.org/devbuilds/adblockplus/ which works with current Minefield builds. As per usual: Remember to whitelist Neowin when using ABP. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593035404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwod Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 YES http://arewefastyet.com/ That is only for JS. To simply answer the question, Firefox 4 is quite a bit faster then previous version. But it is still the slowest out of all the next gen / current gen browser. ( Excluding IE ) How ever there are still many improvement yet to land. Although i dont expect Firefox 4 Final to lead ahead of Chrome and Opera . But even if it did only come close i would still go back to firefox. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593035424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrCheese Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Just fyi: There's a new Adblock Plus development build available at https://adblockplus.org/devbuilds/adblockplus/ which works with current Minefield builds. As per usual: Remember to whitelist Neowin when using ABP. Nope, You still have to do that fix that we previously had to do to get rid of the redirect bug Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593035428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vajlent Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Just fyi: There's a new Adblock Plus development build available at https://adblockplus.org/devbuilds/adblockplus/ which works with current Minefield builds. As per usual: Remember to whitelist Neowin when using ABP. That version of dev.build doesn't work very well... almost block everything for no reason. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593035430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹ Posted August 16, 2010 Subscriber¹ Share Posted August 16, 2010 First off, i've been a devout Firefox user for several years now. I never use other browsers unless absolutely necessary. I hate the tabs on top. That change simply does not make sense to me. And, without any add-ons installed, i'm seeing a major memory leak. When i launch the app, task manager reports around 35mb of memory usage by firefox.exe. After a few minutes of browsing, that number climbs gradually to 150+ mb, even with only one tab open. I hope there's a 4th, 5th, and 6th Beta, because this is nowhere near ready for prime time. Mozilla are planning 7 betas. I'm pretty sure that you'll be able to move the tabs back to the bottom, tabs-on-top is just a default AFAIK. and why isn't it possible to visit Windows Live, like Hotmail etc...? Microsoft is stupid and performs bad browser-sniffing, and thinks Firefox 4 is a mobile browser. So they are still slower ?! At the moment - yes. However, both branches (the orange and black lines on the graphs) are yet to be merged, and when they are they'll be faster than the two individually. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593035548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XP_2600 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 owever, both branches (the orange and black lines on the graphs) are yet to be merged, and when they are they'll be faster than the two individually. You mean merged doubling the performance ?! so it drop down from about 600 to 300 ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593035578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted August 16, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted August 16, 2010 You mean merged doubling the performance ?! so it drop down from about 600 to 300 ? ... and by the time J?germonkey is merged with the Firefox trunk, Google and Apple will have sped up their respective JS engines even more. Aren't browser wars fun? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593035580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XP_2600 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Aren't browser wars fun? Lol, i don't find it funny as our favorite browser (FF) is always the slowest ! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593035588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyblue Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 How long do bugs take to get looked at? I hope mine gets a look at. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593035600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted August 16, 2010 Veteran Share Posted August 16, 2010 Mozilla are planning 7 betas. I'm pretty sure that you'll be able to move the tabs back to the bottom, tabs-on-top is just a default AFAIK. Tabs on top is a toggle and have been since support landed (before it was made the default for Windows) At the moment - yes. However, both branches (the orange and black lines on the graphs) are yet to be merged, and when they are they'll be faster than the two individually. http://www.arewefastyet.com/?machine=6 The merged engine (purple) line is kicking ass on V8 compared to plain TM and JM, but there's still lots of work to be done. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593035754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XP_2600 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 And there is noway to move the commands menu to its original location ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593035776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹ Posted August 16, 2010 Subscriber¹ Share Posted August 16, 2010 Tabs on top is a toggle and have been since support landed (before it was made the default for Windows) http://www.arewefastyet.com/?machine=6 The merged engine (purple) line is kicking ass on V8 compared to plain TM and JM, but there's still lots of work to be done. Aha, I didn't know there was a graph for a merged engine, thanks. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593036092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyli Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Hi! Why is direcwrite ugly? http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7900/59931290.png Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593036116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainer82 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Is it possible to tell certain startup tabs to open as an App Tab? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593036176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewism Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Nope, You still have to do that fix that we previously had to do to get rid of the redirect bug New version released. Finally fixed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593038908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted August 17, 2010 Veteran Share Posted August 17, 2010 Hi! Why is direcwrite ugly? http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7900/59931290.png I'm not seeing any ugly in that picture. DirectWrite does have some bugs, but they're mainly with light text on a dark background. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/65/#findComment-593039590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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