PreKe Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Trident is getting hardware acceleration, I thought and HTML 5 support, plus fast java engine. (just knowledge from general reading, I'm no guru), either way Mozilla seems to be playing catchup to Webkit and really stumbling on the way. Firefox already has hardware acceleration builds out. So apparently Chrome has yet to catch up with Firefox there at least! From what I read, that's Webkit's crown not Firefox. lol you've drank from the cool-aide fountain of Mozilla I think :D What you have read probably doesn't test pure HTML5. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmugMac Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 LOL! So you are now comparing scores between two different OSs. These were on Win7 , and there is really no meaning to compare like this. BTW Safari and Mac , i see some optimization between them... How does a browser test get impacted by the OS? OS X isn't HTML 5 compliant. It's the browser that matters: and now, latest nightly Firefox build for Mac You're grasping at straws. ㋡ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 How does a browser test get impacted by the OS? OS X isn't HTML 5 compliant. It's the browser that matters: You're grasping at straws. ㋡ Test Firefox 3.7a6 , Chrome 6 latest Dev , Opera 10.60 Alphas then show results... And i do think , OS will affect the scores Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jos Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 In http://beta.html5test.com/ , following are the scores (out of 315) Chrome 6 - 220 Firefox 3.7a6- 186 Safari 5 - even less (forgot the figures , but definitely less than Firefox) Opera 10.6 - 129 So i see two WebKit Browsers here , 1 @ top , 1 @ bottom of firefox. Yeah they are the king of the hill really! BTW i can see less ppl are voting for "No , i hate firefox"" Interesting results. I did the same tests and here's what I got: Chromium - 212 Firefox - 139 Safari - 129 I know it's not "apples-to-apples", but it shows the same trend. On a different test, my benchmarks show the WebKit browsers on top: Check them out here. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Heartripper Subscriber¹ Posted June 12, 2010 Subscriber¹ Share Posted June 12, 2010 Safari 5 on Mac gets 208 plus 7 bonus points. You really should learn facts before posting. Safari on win7: Normal: 165 + 0 (bonus) / 300 Beta: 170 + 0 (bonus) /315 Firefox on win7: Normal: 176 + 9(bonus)/300 Beta: 176 + 9(bonus)/315 (firefox 3.7 a6pre vs safari 5 downloaded today (and uninstalled today)) NORMAL >> http://html5test.com/ BETA >> http://beta.html5test.com/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.r9 Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Guys, if you believe Firefox to be inferior against 'x' browser then use 'x' browser. Yes Firefox has gained a little 'weight' but it's by no means a slow browser. Firefox is a complete browser with extreme customization capabilities & etc.... So kindly, leave this thread. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 Safari on win7: Normal: 165 + 0(bonus) / 300 Beta: 170 + 0 (bonus) /315 Firefox on win7: Normal: 176+9(bonus)/315 Beta: 176+9(bonus)/315 So OS does affect , and my stuff was not fake :D EDIT: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted June 12, 2010 Veteran Share Posted June 12, 2010 How does a browser test get impacted by the OS? ... The same way Safari only supports 3D Transforms on Snow Leopard and not on Leopard or Windows. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inklin Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 I like it now, but it is opaque and it ruins it... I hope they do make it clouded glass behind the bookmarks bar, address bar and the active tab... Like strate40 with stratabuddy was. Not fully transparent but just enough to see the desktop background through. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 I like it now, but it is opaque and it ruins it... I hope they do make it clouded glass behind the bookmarks bar, address bar and the active tab... Like strate40 with stratabuddy was. Not fully transparent but just enough to see the desktop background through. in to-do list Maybe not : Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmugMac Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 The same way Safari only supports 3D Transforms on Snow Leopard and not on Leopard or Windows. Ah. Been learned! Thanks. ㋡ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inklin Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 in to-do list Maybe not : Oh, This will be one niggle that annoys me then, it wouldn't hurt and would look a lot better the way I want it lol Thank you! Great progress so far, even if the team are a little bit behind on some targets! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 The same way Safari only supports 3D Transforms on Snow Leopard and not on Leopard or Windows. + see comparison of Win Xp vs Win7 only , Xp tends to have higher scores in browser benchmarks ... Oh, This will be one niggle that annoys me then, it wouldn't hurt and would look a lot better the way I want it lol Thank you! Great progress so far, even if the team are a little bit behind on some targets! Revolution takes time ,you know :p Ah. Been learned! Thanks. ㋡ :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluxii Media Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Do you really have to promote Chrome in every single comment you make? Uh... go through EVERY comment I've ever made on Neowin... and tell me I've promoted Chrome in EVERY SINGLE one I've made. Stop drinking the Mozilla Kool-Aid PreKe! You try to state Firefox has the best scores with HTML5, yet Chrome gets higher. Firefox has a slower rendering engine, and it's trying to play catch up on it's UI... I use Firefox and Chrome! I switch constantly, I still like Chrome because it's slim and fast, I like Firefox at times because it's got more customization! Stop trying to think that I am all for Chrome and Chrome alone. I love both browsers and all I said was I didn't like the UI for the tabs on top feature yet! Though the new nightly makes them look better, just a little rough around the edges. I know once the UI is done for Firefox 4, it'll look great, you silly boy. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Safari 5 on Mac gets 208 plus 7 bonus points. You really should learn facts before posting. Looking over what it actually tests , that test is crap anyway. why would it even give points for different video tag codecs. that's just plain stupid. a more realistic comparison was the circle diagram showed in some other thread. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kralik Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 The new UI is almost like Chrome Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluxii Media Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 The new UI is almost like Chrome Getting very similar. :) Nothing wrong with that in my opinion. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kralik Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Getting very similar. :) Nothing wrong with that in my opinion. Yeah.. so does that mean Google got it right the first time? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeet Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Uh... go through EVERY comment I've ever made on Neowin... and tell me I've promoted Chrome in EVERY SINGLE one I've made. Stop drinking the Mozilla Kool-Aid PreKe! You try to state Firefox has the best scores with HTML5, yet Chrome gets higher. Firefox has a slower rendering engine, and it's trying to play catch up on it's UI... I use Firefox and Chrome! I switch constantly, I still like Chrome because it's slim and fast, I like Firefox at times because it's got more customization! Stop trying to think that I am all for Chrome and Chrome alone. I love both browsers and all I said was I didn't like the UI for the tabs on top feature yet! Though the new nightly makes them look better, just a little rough around the edges. I know once the UI is done for Firefox 4, it'll look great, you silly boy. While Chrome does score more than Firefox, I just wish webkit would hurry up and get apng support so I can use Chrome as my main browser. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 So performance means the most to you guys , hmm. Fine :) Oh , that's why more people use IE, then Firefox , then the fasties Im getting it right , aint i? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealexweb Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Trident is getting hardware acceleration, I thought and HTML 5 support, plus fast java engine. (just knowledge from general reading, I'm no guru), either way Mozilla seems to be playing catchup to Webkit and really stumbling on the way. Yes Gecko is playing catchup to Webkit but NOT Trident, Trident is still at the back of the pack, and Firefox is getting Hardware acceleration to anyway. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592743774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Veteran Posted June 12, 2010 Veteran Share Posted June 12, 2010 I love the mockups displayed on this website and I really hope these designs make the final build. Firefox copying Google Chrome UI wise, except that the Firefox UI looks somehow like a cheesy copy of the Chrome UI. Don't like it basically. Honestly the innovation seems to be happening with Webkit and Trident. Firefox looks like a cheap hooker with new bling. In what ways do these mockups or the latest nightly release of Firefox look like Chrome? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592744084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Heartripper Subscriber¹ Posted June 12, 2010 Subscriber¹ Share Posted June 12, 2010 I love the mockups displayed on this website and I really hope these designs make the final build. Me too, i hope they'll keep everything in a single window. they're simply fantastic. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592744146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udedenkz Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Yes Gecko is playing catchup to Webkit but NOT Trident, Trident is still at the back of the pack, and Firefox is getting Hardware acceleration to anyway. You can already enable it FYI. It is just obviously buggy. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592744172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 I really hope these designs make the final build. They will In what ways do these mockups or the latest nightly release of Firefox look like Chrome? Tabs on top for him = Chrome UI You can already enable it FYI. It is just obviously buggy. not much now. All bugs are almost fixed (yes with aero) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/8/#findComment-592744174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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