Neo003 Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 While we're waiting for the Blu-ray Disc Association to upgrade discs to 128GB capacity, Japanese scientists have found a way to increase DVD capacity by 1,000 timesusing just a slick of metal material over each disc. According to Shin-ichy Ohkoshi, the chemistry professor at the University of Tokyo leading the project, painting a variant of titanium oxide onto a DVD will conduct electricity when put under light, but when taken away from light it turns back into black metal. Although it's unlikely to hit the marketat least, not anytime before the BDA launches those new discsthe Japanese team's claims of the DVDs holding 1,000 more data than a Blu-ray certainly are impressive. Blu-rays hold about five times the data of DVDs currently (25GB per single-layered disc and 50GB for dual-layered discs, compared to 4.7GB for single-layered DVDs or 8.5GB for double-layered), and despite millions each year buying a Blu-ray player, plenty more still own DVD players and have no plans to upgrade. Gizmodo.com Can you imagine they could finally release MGS4 for 360 Reacon 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
still1 Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Gizmodo.com Can you imagine they could finally release MGS4 for 360 1000 times the DVD capacity!!!! 4.7 TB in a DVD!!! those guys in japan must be joking!!!! If its true its amazing!!!! and i dont see this coming to DVD soon since it is still in research. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592662502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltLife Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 That is pretty impressive, however what is stopping this type of technology from entering into any type of optical storage medium? I'd assume the same manufacturing process could be replicated to meet BD specifications and add greater storage capabilities to BD as well.It's always great to see these research projects and find out what is being engineered out there. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592662534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Any word though on if current DVD players could even play these discs? I'll stick with Blu-ray :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592662538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hammond Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Any word though on if current DVD players could even play these discs? I'll stick with Blu-ray :) Probably not it would at the very least require a firmware update or more likely new hardware so the title is a bit misleading. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592662550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
testman Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 No it won't. What is described isn't a DVD. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592662552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 1000 times the DVD capacity!!!! 4.7 TB in a DVD!!! those guys in japan must be joking!!!! If its true its amazing!!!! and i dont see this coming to DVD soon since it is still in research. DVDs Could Hold 1,000x Capacity of Blu-rays With New Japanese Research 25GB * 1000 = 25000GB = 25TB ;p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592662574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagisan Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 25GB * 1000 = 25000GB = 25TB ;p Japanese scientists have found a way to increase DVD capacity by 1,000 times The article says both 1,000 times DVD and Blu-Ray capacity, anyone know which one it really means? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592662594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
still1 Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 25GB * 1000 = 25000GB = 25TB ;p yeah saw that too but read the first line on the article. "Japanese scientists have found a way to increase DVD capacity by 1,000 times" The title says 1000x bluray but the article says 1000x dvd. I think the whole thing is a joke. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592662612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
philcruicks Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I suspect it's a bit of an overestimate anyway I think we're more likely looking at several 100 GB maybe 1TB, 4.7 seems a bit wild. but i'd love to see it if they can. Japanese scientists have found a way to increase DVD capacity by 1,000 times does that mean they've actually done it or just found a way to do it....cause there's a bit difference Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592662614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyfrog Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 DVDs New disc could Hold 1,000x Capacity of DVDs With New Japanese Research Fixed the headline for you. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592662654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
philcruicks Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Why are they calling this a DVD? It is no more a DVD than a CD or Blu-Ray disc is. Probably because its using the same basic technology platform as a DVD just with a layer added, Blu-Ray and CD use different materials and technology. painting a variant of titanium oxide onto a DVD Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592662666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted May 24, 2010 Member Share Posted May 24, 2010 This is amazing but it's nothing compared to what we'll see in the future. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592663370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Topham Hatt Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Boring. Let's face it, we're not going to have a useable version of this any time soon. Just as 3D will never take off as many people have just bought a new HD TV, so they're not going to go out and buy another so soon. Technology needs to slow down, or more research needs to be done into things like this so instead of 3TB HDDs creeping onto the market, we have drives that are 50TB as let's face it, it's going to happen anyway! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592663498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeing 787 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 These so-called advances in optical storage that never see the light of day are getting boring. All we have are DVD and BluRay despite dozens of headlines of BREAKTHROUGHS. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592664940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Knight Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Boring. Let's face it, we're not going to have a useable version of this any time soon. Just as 3D will never take off as many people have just bought a new HD TV, so they're not going to go out and buy another so soon. Technology needs to slow down, or more research needs to be done into things like this so instead of 3TB HDDs creeping onto the market, we have drives that are 50TB as let's face it, it's going to happen anyway! I agree. I really do tire of this marginal improvements trying to flood the market. Some things are better done in well crafted leaps. Sir Topham Hatt 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592665072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Topham Hatt Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 ^ lol, rep point just cause you agreed with me :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592667174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gian Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 They should start researching how to make these things faster too, because a disc that holds a few TB will certainly be a pain to use with current speeds... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592667530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3ntury Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 This would be the ULTIMATE backup system, you could put all your media on it, then just keep it in a disc cover and keep it safe.. perfectly and doesn't take up much space. But I would happily bet you guys a few bucks that it will cost alot more then it it potentially could, because of the high storage amount vs. current prices. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592667552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 They should start researching how to make these things faster too, because a disc that holds a few TB will certainly be a pain to use with current speeds... it would be faster due to much higher data density Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592683104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
amon91 Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Not excited because we already have 2948323403258234502340-TB blu-rays. It's called streaming and in my view they're the future down the line, as broadband becomes wider spread and more options become available, which believe me, it's coming. I think it'll outgrow physical media in the next decade. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592683178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Topham Hatt Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 ^ Perhaps so, but I would like to keep all my data safe with me, not with some 3rd party company somewhere accross the world thank you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592683568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 No it won't. What is described isn't a DVD. That was going to be my exact point... DVDs WILL never hold 1,000x the capacity of a blu-ray. Since it technically won't be a DVD! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592683600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
amon91 Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 ^ Perhaps so, but I would like to keep all my data safe with me, not with some 3rd party company somewhere accross the world thank you. You scratch it, it breaks. It gets too much humidity, it breaks. You're on the road and you left it at home, you can't watch it. I understand that sense of safety the cloud will somehow take away from us, but in the end the data will be managed professionally and backed up multiple times a day to insure its safety. In the end... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592683652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Knight Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 You scratch it, it breaks. It gets too much humidity, it breaks. You're on the road and you left it at home, you can't watch it. I understand that sense of safety the cloud will somehow take away from us, but in the end the data will be managed professionally and backed up multiple times a day to insure its safety. In the end... Not everything can be streamed though and as a portable medium it is nice. Not to mention that all data on any medium could be destroyed. You can't view your content without an internet connection with streaming so if the network goes down or one is unavailable your data is stranded. What they really ought to do is to up the capacity but make the disc size smaller so it can fit in more devices and be easier to carry around. They should also design them like mini-discs/floppies so that the disc is in a protective case all the time. A 1TB (or higher) disc the size of a mini-disc would be cool. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/904062-dvds-could-hold-1000x-capacity-of-blu-rays-with-new-japanese-research/#findComment-592683846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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