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[MindTrickz]

1. It's a tactical game that requires players to use ALL of their body parts.

2. The ball is designed as to be thrown as a projectile - which requires ya know, a bit more athleticism than bonking a ball with the side of your foot for hours on end. Oh, sometimes they use the head too right? I mean, god forbid you would touch that ball ;) Utterly and completely boring, but to each his own.

Now Rugby...Rugby is pretty cool :)

1. Yeah, a bit like Rugby I presume :)

2. YOU SAID IT. Football is about bonking the ball with you FOOT, while Sissy Rubgy is about Throwing the ball as a projectile. Keyword, THROWING. It should therefor really be called "Alternative Handball" or "Amercan Rubgy".

[Astra.Xtreme]

Yes, I have. Except this was without full body protection, padding and helmets. It was called RUGBY. The UN-sissified version of the game you are talking.

A little naive, are we? Have you ever considered that there was a day where helmets/pads (or minimal of) were NOT worn? Can you guess what happened that caused pads and helmets to evolve into what it is today? Broken skulls and paralysis...

Every NFL game would have casualties if nobody wore pads. Neck injuries and concussions are still a regular occurrence. To be fair, Rugby COULD be considered the "sissier" sport since it isn't rough enough to the point where the players HAVE to wear pads and helmets.

The fact is, American football players are bigger and faster, and it's a game of skill and strategy... not what team can survive injuries.

Claiming American football is a sissy sport just shows you are ignorant you are... And FYI, I'm not a football fan. I just find it interesting how the rest of the world tries to constantly demean and one-up us for some reason.

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A little naive, are we? Have you ever considered that there was a day where helmets/pads (or minimal of) were NOT worn? Can you guess what happened that caused pads and helmets to evolve into what it is today? Broken skulls and paralysis...

Every NFL game would have casualties if nobody wore pads. Neck injuries and concussions are still a regular occurrence. To be fair, Rugby COULD be considered the "sissier" sport since it isn't rough enough to the point where the players HAVE to wear pads and helmets.

The fact is, American football players are bigger and faster, and it's a game of skill and strategy... not what team can survive injuries.

Claiming American football is a sissy sport just shows you are ignorant you are... And FYI, I'm not a football fan. I just find it interesting how the rest of the world tries to constantly demean and one-up us for some reason.

What i find a bit silly about American Football is that you have separate groups for offence and defence. It would be far more tactical if you had to have the same players on the pitch the whole time and they had to do both jobs.

[x-scratch]

soccer = football

american football = handball since its 99% played with hands

[deuz]

A little naive, are we? Have you ever considered that there was a day where helmets/pads (or minimal of) were NOT worn? Can you guess what happened that caused pads and helmets to evolve into what it is today? Broken skulls and paralysis...

Every NFL game would have casualties if nobody wore pads. Neck injuries and concussions are still a regular occurrence. To be fair, Rugby COULD be considered the "sissier" sport since it isn't rough enough to the point where the players HAVE to wear pads and helmets.

The fact is, American football players are bigger and faster, and it's a game of skill and strategy... not what team can survive injuries.

Claiming American football is a sissy sport just shows you are ignorant you are... And FYI, I'm not a football fan. I just find it interesting how the rest of the world tries to constantly demean and one-up us for some reason.

Well that's where the difference is. Rugby does not allow for head high contact neither does AFL, they don't wear helmets because tacklers don't lead with the head which i have noticed in NFL(though i don't think the rules allow it). AFL does allow for sheparding or off the ball contact just like NFL but there are no pads. i understand the need for helmets for the way they tackle.ie. they go for a hit to make a person fall over as opposed to holding some one in a spot. But don't justify the use of pads because it is more 'hardcore' there is no more contact here than you would see in an AFL,league/union game.

NFL players indeed bigger and faster, this is due to about 15 minute playtime over the course of 60 minutes with breaks for offense defense change-overs, timeouts.etc. League and union do not have either with most players playing 40 minutes blocks with total game being 80 minutes. AFL players continously run with 15 minute quarters over the course of an hour. NFL players sprint in bursts for short periods where as all other codes continually run up and down the field. Tactically, nfl is more strategy based with coachs calling out plays to their player and quarterback applying them. Here it is more about anticipating what the other team will do. In union and league it is more about thinking on your feet and building up a play to get to the goal line.

What i find a bit silly about American Football is that you have separate groups for offence and defence. It would be far more tactical if you had to have the same players on the pitch the whole time and they had to do both jobs.

That's one of the reasons even though i watch NFL, i get annoyed at it. The skill set is so compartmentalised..... the player can only to one thing. In NFL a quarter back only throws a ball9(i've seen mcnabb run it i think), blocker only blocks, receivers run or catch. In other types of rugby a half back can receive the ball, throw the ball, run the ball, kick the ball, tackle in defense. Forwards(like blockers i guess) also must run up and down with the defense. Players are all multiskilled.

[Boz]

I just find it still hilarious that in US football has almost nothing to do with "foot" and a "ball".... American football is more about carrying the ball..

So the real question is who came up with the stupid "football" term for American football.. when it clearly has no connection with the foot.

That's why I find it retarded that a sport that is being played with a foot, is called soccer yet the sport which is not necessarily played with a foot (more like rugby) is called football..

Kind of stupid.

[Fubar]

I see some americans here have no idea the history of american football, Rugby was deemed to Brutal by roservelt and banned the sport when he was president he told them to make it safer, hence the padding and the helmets the NFL was born, to say american football is more brutal than rugby is just laughable...

[cork1958]

I don't call it football or soccer.

I call it boring!!

[Kralik]

[Mathachew Veteran]

I still find it amusing that those arguing American Football being hand egg refuse to apply the same logic to Rugby Football.

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Well technically you can kick the ball in Rugby in normal play.

[Solid Knight]

I still find it amusing that those arguing American Football being hand egg refuse to apply the same logic to Rugby Football.

Or how they can't figure out why it was initially called Football (which they could just look up if they really wanted to know the history). Then again, these same people probably are the ones asking why the citizens of the United States of America call themselves American.

[Ironman273]

To summarize this thread:

• English invented the term Soccer and the U.S. (and others) just use it.
• "It's football because it's played with the foot" yet Rugby Football is OK because it's not American.
• "American Football is sissy!" yet rolling around the floor for 5 minutes because you barely got touched (if touched at all) is OK.

BTW, I grew up in Brazil, so the only sport I'm ever interested in is soccer, but some of the anti-US sentiment here is thread-cleaning worthy...

Oh, and I call it soccer because I currently live in the US and that's what it's called here. If I lived in England, I'm sure I'd be calling it football.

[+Anarkii Subscriber²]

It's soccer to me.

Australian Rules Football is the real football.

This.

Also - Soccer = the world cup game.

Football = Australian Rules Football.

Rugby = weird game but with weird rules.

ARL = Australian Gridiron more or less, without the ***** padding and with more fisticuffs and broken spines.

Cricket = who the hell cares, its like tennis and golf, a boring ass sport :p

[Southern Patriot]

Have you guys even played the sport in full gear? Try it and let a guy ram you full speed and let see how sissfied you think the game is.

I would just LOVE to see someone like Beckham (or any other soccer superstar) get suited up and try to play against even a college football team (nevermind an actual NFL team). He'd be crushed in a matter of seconds! Hell, he probably wouldn't even stand much of a chance against your average Texas high school team!

[Darth Laidher]

I find it hilarious that, we as American's get ripped on for wearing pads while your glorious "football" players dive at even the slightest of touches! I watched rugby the other day and I must say the tackling in it is no where near as rough as American football, they do mostly grabbing and pushing no real diving to tackle people.If you think its a sissy sport go tell it to the people thats had broken necks and been paralyzed playing it. Ignorance of the Europeans is amazing, just goes to show theres still elitism over there towards Americans.

I would just LOVE to see someone like Beckham (or any other soccer superstar) get suited up and try to play against even a college football team (nevermind an actual NFL team). He'd be crushed in a matter of seconds! Hell, he probably wouldn't even stand much of a chance against your average Texas high school team!

+100000000000000000000 this.

[Southern Patriot]

Well, why do they spell a lot of things different to British English in the first place? Aren't the English the people who created the language and isn't it used elsewhere in its British form? I don't understand why the Americans took our language and changed spellings and other such things. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I am aware, that's what happened.

American English is influenced by far more languages due to the fact that we have a lot more people from other countries and cultures than British English.

[Southern Patriot]

What i find a bit silly about American Football is that you have separate groups for offence and defence. It would be far more tactical if you had to have the same players on the pitch the whole time and they had to do both jobs.

Professional teams are like that, but quite often high school and even college teams (and certainly when it's just a bunch of guys playing around) have the same people on both.

[Lee G. Veteran]

I don't understand why people argue over the naming of two sports. I refer to football (i.e. soccer) as football, and I also have an interest in American football, and refer to that as football too. I don't see why some people would have an issue with Americans referring to football as soccer either.

I find it hilarious that, we as American's get ripped on for wearing pads while your glorious "football" players dive at even the slightest of touches! I watched rugby the other day and I must say the tackling in it is no where near as rough as American football, they do mostly grabbing and pushing no real diving to tackle people.If you think its a sissy sport go tell it to the people thats had broken necks and been paralyzed playing it. Ignorance of the Europeans is amazing, just goes to show theres still elitism over there towards Americans.

I would think that most Europeans know that football (soccer) is nowhere near as rough as American football. Rugby on the other hand can be just as rough as American football. I have to agree with you though, in that I don't understand why American football players are criticised for wearing pads.

[briangw]

"American Football is sissy!" yet rolling around the floor for 5 minutes because you barely got touched (if touched at all) is OK.

Funny you mention that. Soccer is pretty much the only sport I've watched in the last 3 weeks (besides baseball <- what is that, cricket for the rest of the world? j/k) where athletes fake injuries to try to get a card thrown on the opposing player. No wonder it's boring.

I will say the only time I watch soccer is during the World Cup and I just love seeing the atmosphere of multiple nations cheering on their teams. Same goes for most Olympic sports too.

[HSoft]

To summarize this thread:

....

• Football is generally regarded worldwide (except America) as football because you play with a ball and your feet.
• Rugby is generally regarded around the world as just Rugby and not Rugby football. How many people do you meet that actually say Rugby football?
• American football should be renamed hand egg because the "ball" is really egg shaped and you mostly play with your hands.

:rofl:

[Darth Laidher]

I don't understand why people argue over the naming of two sports. I refer to football (i.e. soccer) as football, and I also have an interest in American football, and refer to that as football too. I don't see why some people would have an issue with Americans referring to football as soccer either.

I would think that most Europeans know that football (soccer) is nowhere near as rough as American football. Rugby on the other hand can be just as rough as American football. I have to agree with you though, in that I don't understand why American football players are criticised for wearing pads.

It doesn't matter the American sport diving is looked down on, 99% of American athletes no matter the sport won't dive because they know thats bad sportsmanship.If someone gets hit they take it like a man and move on.

[Lee G. Veteran]

It doesn't matter the American sport diving is looked down on, 99% of American athletes no matter the sport won't dive because they know thats bad sportsmanship.If someone gets hit they take it like a man and move on.

I agree with you, and I think it's bad sportsmanship too.

[deuz]

ARL = Australian Gridiron more or less, without the ***** padding and with more fisticuffs and broken spines.

Cricket = who the hell cares, its like tennis and golf, a boring ass sport :p

dont compare nrl to gridiron that unbelievably insulting.

I would just LOVE to see someone like Beckham (or any other soccer superstar) get suited up and try to play against even a college football team (nevermind an actual NFL team). He'd be crushed in a matter of seconds! Hell, he probably wouldn't even stand much of a chance against your average Texas high school team!

american ignorance ftw. i dont understand what your comment means. what does beckham playing nfl have to do with anything.

[Lechio]

I would just LOVE to see someone like Beckham (or any other soccer superstar) get suited up and try to play against even a college football team (nevermind an actual NFL team). He'd be crushed in a matter of seconds! Hell, he probably wouldn't even stand much of a chance against your average Texas high school team!

I would just LOVE to see some overweight, potato head (pretty much any sissy rugby superstar) get unsuited up and try to play against even a college rugby team (never mind an actual Rugby league team). He'd be crushed in a matter of seconds! Hell, he probably wouldn't even stand much of a chance against your average high school team!

Football is not a contact sport, it's about technique, athleticism, not brainless obese man fondling each other in the crotch.

BTW Beckham to represent e football player?? Beckham is long gone.