GJVC Posted August 14, 2010 Author Share Posted August 14, 2010 I don't think any normal users would be able to browse the web if that really became the interface. Not that it doesnt look good, but it's way too different from an ordinary browser layout Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593030642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kralik Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I love the new Chrome 6 UI.. the bar at the top is very narrow.. looks great.. I won't mind something close to that by MS.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593030652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M V E Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I want something like this Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593030654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncharted Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 ^ top nice bottom horrid Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593030664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeeperOfThePizza Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 What I think they should do 1. Do not copy Safari, Firefox, Chrome, Opera. 2. Do not use IE8's UI or Metro UI 3. Do something New and Original it's probably a far cry but I think they need to move on up. I would love it if they did something like this: And this: Source: http://www.favbrowser.com/leaked-internet-explorer-9-screenshots/ Ugly IMO. Metro UI is nice on a phone... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593030670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncharted Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Metro is only for phone Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593030708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Star Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 @XT-G, I quite like that. :yes: @ JonathanMarston, I also saw the before and loved that. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593030732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Johnny Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Metro is only for phone They use it on the Desktop too... it's not just for phones =/ IE6, 7 & 8 were all designed to fit in with Windows Explorer, and have similar stylings to XP (IE6), Vista (IE7) and Seven's (IE8) Windows Explorer Windows, so I'd think I.E 9 would share a similar styling to IE.8, but maybe move the tabs or the address bar into the title bar to save space =)? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593030838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Metro is only for phone No it's not. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593030878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeeperOfThePizza Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 No it's not. +10 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593033638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Veteran Posted August 15, 2010 Veteran Share Posted August 15, 2010 You can add or remove buttons already. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593033644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frylock86 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Metro is only for phone No it's not. +10 +100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593034432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasethebase Reporter Posted August 16, 2010 Reporter Share Posted August 16, 2010 Why are so many people having a crisis over Metro? It looks great on mobile, on a Desktop, not so much. It's like saying iOS should be used on a desktop, when it isn't designed for that. IE9 won't change much in terms of UI, probably just small tweaks to fit it in with 7 more. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593034568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Johnny Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Why are so many people having a crisis over Metro? It looks great on mobile, on a Desktop, not so much. It's like saying iOS should be used on a desktop, when it isn't designed for that. IE9 won't change much in terms of UI, probably just small tweaks to fit it in with 7 more. It does look great on a Desktop. Zune & Metrotwit are both a testament to that. There is nothing inherently mobile specific about Metro's design philosophy. Keep in mind Metro isn't a rigid design element like the Ribbon UI (or iOS) - it's a design philosophy, a set of guidelines for you to follow, and interpret into your own needs to create beautiful applications. Metro is about simplicity, and focus' on beautiful typography and user content above all else. It's about clean, light and open design - letting content be the UI, and stripping away everything else. It's also about fast, smooth and natural animation/motion. All of those things work perfectly fine on the desktop and mobile, and they look amazing on both when done properly. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593034600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentGray Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 And that's probbly what so many people have an issue with when it comes to metro. They see a UI designed for phones and think it's getting brought to desktops because that's what Apple would do. Apple designed iOS and it's components... making a unified, custom desinged envrioment. Microsoft on the other hand created a design concept and are giving people the ability to use it how it works best. Two entirly different things. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593034624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Why are so many people having a crisis over Metro? It looks great on mobile, on a Desktop, not so much. It's like saying iOS should be used on a desktop, when it isn't designed for that. IE9 won't change much in terms of UI, probably just small tweaks to fit it in with 7 more. I don't agree. When done right, it looks amazing on a desktop. The Zune software looks great. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593034640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
murkurie Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 As long, as the tabs are not top, I won't mind using it. I hate the tabs on the top. If it looks like the FF theme Twenty Ten, I would probably use it as my main browser. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593034684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I can't stand the fact that Internet Explorer 8 forces the Tab bar and second toolbar button row into one space. Keep the toolbar for toolbar buttons and address bar, keep the tab bar for tabs only. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593035570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted August 16, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted August 16, 2010 The Metro UI may look nice for the Zune Player. It simply wouldn't work for a web browser though. The IE 9 UI will be a refinement of the IE 8 UI. Nothing more. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593035574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Anarkii Subscriber² Posted August 16, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted August 16, 2010 I think IE9 will be just as bloated as IE8. I cant picture it being minimal at all, nor functional to use as a mainstream browser again. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593035690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason13524 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I think IE9 will be just as bloated as IE8. I cant picture it being minimal at all, nor functional to use as a mainstream browser again. First time I've ever seen ayone say IE8 is bloated and the 2nd point, you've not used the test copies of IE9 or been reading their blog. Its currently more functional than any browser available. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593035706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Keep in mind Metro isn't a rigid design element like the Ribbon UI (or iOS) - it's a design philosophy, a set of guidelines for you to follow, and interpret into your own needs to create beautiful applications. Could you please link to these guidelines? As far as I know, no such thing exists. The only thing that exists is the Zune software's UI, from which people have extrapolated a whole "Metro" design, despite the fact that it's used nowhere else, and has little to do with the actual Metro design found on the mobile devices. As for MetroTwit, I don't see how it's the same as the Zune software. They have little in common apart from a lack of depth. Is that what Metro means? "Flat?" Whatever Microsoft considers "Metro" to be internally, I have serious doubts that it's the kind of ultra-vague philosophy that people here are claiming. Anyway, the problem I have with the design is that it completely ignores the UX guidelines for Windows. It is radically different from them, and radically different from the Windows design itself. It's really inconsistent with Windows and looks completely out of place. If all of Windows looked that way, then that would be one thing, but to have a single OS component (IE) be so radically different from the rest of the system? It's absurd. There is also no framework for it. To use it, you have to custom design everything. You have to draw everything manually, all the way from the window borders down to the individual UI controls. It's a lot of work trying to jury-rig the look into a framework that was not designed for it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593035742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Charming Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Could you please link to these guidelines? As far as I know, no such thing exists. The only thing that exists is the Zune software's UI, from which people have extrapolated a whole "Metro" design, despite the fact that it's used nowhere else, and has little to do with the actual Metro design found on the mobile devices. As for MetroTwit, I don't see how it's the same as the Zune software. They have little in common apart from a lack of depth. Is that what Metro means? "Flat?" Whatever Microsoft considers "Metro" to be internally, I have serious doubts that it's the kind of ultra-vague philosophy that people here are claiming. Anyway, the problem I have with the design is that it completely ignores the UX guidelines for Windows. It is radically different from them, and radically different from the Windows design itself. It's really inconsistent with Windows and looks completely out of place. If all of Windows looked that way, then that would be one thing, but to have a single OS component (IE) be so radically different from the rest of the system? It's absurd. There is also no framework for it. To use it, you have to custom design everything. You have to draw everything manually, all the way from the window borders down to the individual UI controls. It's a lot of work trying to jury-rig the look into a framework that was not designed for it. For what it's worth, there is a UI Design and Interaction guide for Windows Phone. Whilst is is obviously WP7, and not Metro, the two are to a degree interchangable, and it lays out a lot of stuff including sizing, spaces, typography and so on. There's also the Metro Design Language document, which is designed primarily as an explanation and provenance for Metro, but also details quite well good usage and areas of Metro. It's something of an applicable design guide document. Finally, frameworks do exist. There's the Microsoft relased Cosmopolitan theme for Silverlight, which isn't a massive effort to port across to WPF given the extreme commonality and XAML background. It's quite verbose in its inclusion of controls and elements. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593035768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8inch Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I'm sure it won't have the IE8 glassy buttons. The new IE9 logo comes without the old glass effect as well. Glass is out. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593035790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 For what it's worth, there is a UI Design and Interaction guide for Windows Phone. Whilst is is obviously WP7, and not Metro, the two are to a degree interchangable, and it lays out a lot of stuff including sizing, spaces, typography and so on. There's also the Metro Design Language document, which is designed primarily as an explanation and provenance for Metro, but also details quite well good usage and areas of Metro. It's something of an applicable design guide document. URL? I'm not so sure how interchangeable the two are. The Zune software is very different both in form and function from the WP7 interface (obviously a computer is not a phone). I'd like to see the actual guidelines for the Windows Metro design as used by Zune that he seemed to claim exists. Finally, frameworks do exist. There's the Microsoft relased Cosmopolitan theme for Silverlight, which isn't a massive effort to port across to WPF given the extreme commonality and XAML background. It's quite verbose in its inclusion of controls and elements. I was talking about the native world. Most software (including all of Windows and most other Microsoft software) is native code, and can't (and probably don't want to) use Silverlight or WPF. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/929600-ie9-ui/page/2/#findComment-593035814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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