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I bought the potato sack because it was a good deal, the games I wanted alone cost more than the entire sack.

Even then, the developers of the games get more money than Valve do. So while it's easy to claim that it's just a way for Valve to make money, remember that Valve isn't the one getting the majority of it.

The only spuds (sorry potatoes) lol, are the ones who paid extra to get this game unlocked early. Not even half baked either :laugh:

What little hope for society just went out the window with this I'm afraid. Still, we move on, we try lol :rolleyes:

I've spoke with Valve, and if I buy another 20 games on their list, they will give me the 8% pre-load I need to finish this download, rather than me waiting. I think its a good deal, and they will give me 2 baked potatoes for my dinner also.....

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So, affecting the release time means possibly a 'whole' 24hrs earlier? WOOPEEE DOOO lol!!

Was it really worth spending an extra ?28.00 on this money making exercise? lol - your money and its yours to waste I suppose :rolleyes:

I hope Valve releases LATE (they normally do) lol, and I'll laugh and laugh till I laugh :laugh:

24 hours early. Doubtful.

We'll be lucky if it gets released at Midnight PDT Tuesday Morning.

I think each completed game, shaves a hour off.

50 minutes.

How are they exploiting gamers by helping indie developers.. They could have left the prices for the titles at the normal price, but instead, they knocked the prices down.

The two aren't mutually exclusive. Yes they're helping indie devs make sales, but at the same time they've told people: "Buy these games for ?28.99 and get Portal 2 early", when in reality it will be all of a day early. Patience is a trait many gamers don't unfortunately posess, and IMO Valve exploited this to and extent sell games. I mean, it's certainly no crime, but at the same time, they could have knocked the price down all the same without the promise of the "early Portal 2 release" which basically encouraged people to buy games that they wouldn't ordinarily play.

With the game releasing today/tomorrow for the NA folk. Will this thread be full of spoilers? Or is there a spoiler policy in place. I don't mind either way, if things are being discussed I'll stay out of the thread until I have it.

Spoiler tags should always be used. Not everyone will play (and beat) the game at the same time.

The two aren't mutually exclusive. Yes they're helping indie devs make sales, but at the same time they've told people: "Buy these games for ?28.99 and get Portal 2 early", when in reality it will be all of a day early. Patience is a trait many gamers don't unfortunately posess, and IMO Valve exploited this to and extent sell games. I mean, it's certainly no crime, but at the same time, they could have knocked the price down all the same without the promise of the "early Portal 2 release" which basically encouraged people to buy games that they wouldn't ordinarily play.

So what you're saying, is through marketing Valve greatly increased the profile and profits of small, indie developers, while introducing new players to the games who wouldn't have otherwise purchased the games. And at the same time provided the opportunity to get a hugely anticipated game before it's original release date?

So what you're saying, is through marketing Valve greatly increased the profile and profits of small, indie developers, while introducing new players to the games who wouldn't have otherwise purchased the games. And at the same time provided the opportunity to get a hugely anticipated game before it's original release date?

Yeah how dare they....

Though just to play devils advocate if the game is ready then why wait till the release date thats what annoys me about publishers the game is sat on the shelves or digitally on a server and probably has been for a good few days if its ready let people play.

Yeah how dare they....

Though just to play devils advocate if the game is ready then why wait till the release date thats what annoys me about publishers the game is sat on the shelves or digitally on a server and probably has been for a good few days if its ready let people play.

If it was only being released on Steam, they would probably have released it as soon as it was done. But they have to have time to get it to all retailers, and if they release it substantially before them they probably face legal repercussions - retailers really hate what they would see as being cheated out of profits.

So what you're saying, is through marketing Valve greatly increased the profile and profits of small, indie developers, while introducing new players to the games who wouldn't have otherwise purchased the games. And at the same time provided the opportunity to get a hugely anticipated game before it's original release date?

I take no issue with the fact that they're supporting Indie developers, in fact I applaud it, but the fact is that the game was ready on Friday, and Valve could quite easily have said "Buy these extra games, and get Portal 4 days early", instead of making everyone wait and get it a day early... on a school/work day when no-one can play it.

I don't know, I like the fact that it could be coming out early, but to me it just smacks of a social experiment to see how impatient gamers really are, while at the same time making a bit of extra money.

EDIT: Like Someguy said, there would probably be legal ramifications from releasing it on Friday from game retailers, but still, the whole thing is just a farce.

How are they exploiting gamers by helping indie developers.. They could have left the prices for the titles at the normal price, but instead, they knocked the prices down.

By dangling portal 2 in front of them on a stick. At MOST this will release it a few hours early, this glados@home thing never had a chance to have any significant effect on the release date. People did all this work collecting the potatoes and such to essentially not even change the release date.

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