MineCraft?

[firey]

Has anyone here played the other Game (Similar to this) That Notch developed? It's wurm online. Notch coded the client and did much of the initial work. He stepped down as client coder and moved on to other things. The site is www.wurmonline.com.

If you have played it, which do you prefer? Wurm or Minecraft? My vote personally is Wurm as it is more survival/worldly... however Minecraft is definitely unique and I am quite happy with my purchase :p

[Nagisan]

When playing today, I noticed that I lost my basement :/ The entire section that I dug out just filled itself in today... I also noticed that one of my rooms was getting flooded by water that burst through a block. Hopefully I don't lose my entire home/castle in a few days.

Odd, water generally does not go through blocks unless they are open, did you maybe accidently remove a sand block or something without noticing it? On top of that, unless you are flooding from the ocean or something (where every block is a water spring which replenishes and fills any nearby blocks infinitely) water will only spread 4 blocks before it stops, but if it drops down by 1 block it can spread another 4 blocks (this pattern repeats until it hits 4 blocks without dropping down any, or it hits a wall).

In short, unless you were close to a lake or a LARGE water source, you shouldn't have flooded an entire basement. If you know where the water spring is (the source tile that generates nearby water) and you remove it with a bucket (or plug it up with a block) it should drain the rest of the water too.

If you are building around water you might want to make some airlocks in key hallways, they are basically a tricky way of manipulating sand which takes advantage of gravity and torches which disappear if hit by water to create a sand wall that falls and seals off the flooded area if water comes through the area.

[Brandon H Supervisor]

ok, I epically fail, I went to explore where that cave came out and ended up falling part way down the waterfall lol :p

[Evolution]

Odd, water generally does not go through blocks unless they are open, did you maybe accidently remove a sand block or something without noticing it? On top of that, unless you are flooding from the ocean or something (where every block is a water spring which replenishes and fills any nearby blocks infinitely) water will only spread 4 blocks before it stops, but if it drops down by 1 block it can spread another 4 blocks (this pattern repeats until it hits 4 blocks without dropping down any, or it hits a wall).

In short, unless you were close to a lake or a LARGE water source, you shouldn't have flooded an entire basement. If you know where the water spring is (the source tile that generates nearby water) and you remove it with a bucket (or plug it up with a block) it should drain the rest of the water too.

If you are building around water you might want to make some airlocks in key hallways, they are basically a tricky way of manipulating sand which takes advantage of gravity and torches which disappear if hit by water to create a sand wall that falls and seals off the flooded area if water comes through the area.

The room wasn't actually flooded, it was just that water was now coming in, even though I hadn't even touched the wall. The basement just disappeared for no reason and was filled up with stone.

[Nagisan]

The room wasn't actually flooded, it was just that water was now coming in, even though I hadn't even touched the wall. The basement just disappeared for no reason and was filled up with stone.

Sounds like you somehow quit without saving on accident, for the water, just block where its flowing in and it should empty out.

[Xilo]

Has anyone here played the other Game (Similar to this) That Notch developed? It's wurm online. Notch coded the client and did much of the initial work. He stepped down as client coder and moved on to other things. The site is www.wurmonline.com.

If you have played it, which do you prefer? Wurm or Minecraft? My vote personally is Wurm as it is more survival/worldly... however Minecraft is definitely unique and I am quite happy with my purchase :p

I prefer Dwarf Frotress. It's MUCH more complex but a lot more satisfying. The only downside is it's an ASCII game (like Rogue or Nethack) and the controls can get confusing. There's several utilities created for the game though.

[Evolution]

Sounds like you somehow quit without saving on accident, for the water, just block where its flowing in and it should empty out.

So even after several saves of the basement, quitting without saving afterwards some how reverses all of it? I created the basement when I settled in the mountain and yet everything else is the way it should be.

[Brandon H Supervisor]

honestly Evolution all i can say is LOL :p

[Brandon H Supervisor]

lol explosions

[Nagisan]

So even after several saves of the basement, quitting without saving afterwards some how reverses all of it? I created the basement when I settled in the mountain and yet everything else is the way it should be.

I really don't know.....maybe those chunks got corrupt or something? I don't think the game has any kind of failsafe for corrupt chunks though, I think the save just becomes corrupt and won't load....

Even if its a bug present in the game I just haven't heard of anything like this happening to anyone in the past, but I just recently became active in the Minecraft forums so I could just be unaware of past issues.

Now, as for my own stuff, I finally dug down to the bottom of the map via a stairway mine (you dig in a stairway fashion from the surface all the way down, so you can dig 1 level lower than what you are standing on so if you break through into a large cavern or into some lava, you don't fall into it and die). I started working more on the glass ceiling of my mine.....8 stacks of glass, already been through 2 of them just to get the left side frame done (from top to bottom, which is only 1 of 7 layers I need to do to have the whole thing done, its a total of 1x7x60? Guessing on the 60 for length, its probably more like 100 cause of how long the mine is)......once I get that done I can jump up on top of it and fill in the upper layer (basically to hold the lava in so it doesn't flow out to any surrounding caves that I dig into later) with stone (I have maybe 40 stacks of stone now, and will have a lot more by the time I finish the glass roof, as I am using stone as a placeholder in the 6 other layers that are all 1x1x60-100 of the roof right now). Once I get that done I will finally be able to test it with water (much more easily fixable if it leaks with water, simply remove the 1 source and it all disappears) then finally go back to some of the lava springs I found to fill it with lava and light that place up. Then, I will have room to put two minecart tracks (one to go down, one to come up, will probably link them so it stops at the bottom and you can get back on it to go back to the surface).

Lots of work left to do, the tedious stuff is on the glass ceiling cause glass is a pain to get (farm sand...plenty of it....then smelt it all into glass, which takes probably 10-15 minutes per stack, sped up by using multiple stoves but still slow as hell), I don't even know how long the mine is though, might figure that out tomorrow so I can get a good estimate of how much glass I will need to finish it.

Also found a buttload of redstone towards the bottom, just finishing the main mineshaft I got a little over 2 stacks of the stuff, and I haven't even started looking for it yet though I do have some plans that will require it (maybe set up a cart call that can send a cart down to the bottom if you need one and none are there).

[mail]

For when you want to cheat a little bit - http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=15921

[Brandon H Supervisor]

thanks, i needed that tool, i just died because i accentually bumped into some lava and re-spawned right next to a skeleton which killed me again lol so i lost all my stuff i was carrying

[Evolution]

hmmm with this tool I could make diamond block walls instead of having to use cobblestone! :D

[Kussie]

Jeez it's almost midnight, last i checked the time it was only 7:30. Damn addictive game >.<

On the bright side i've been very busy improving my main fort, adding more rooms, adding a huge wall of glass panels and a whole new room. Completely demolishing one side of my fort and replacing with a huge open area with some lava and water falling from the roof and a small river with a bridge over it that leads out to a staircase outside which leads down to a side project, an underwater base with more self made caverns and such in it, not sure what i will do with it yet, but it looks cool.

:)

Video of my build so far:

[Nagisan]

hmmm with this tool I could make diamond block walls instead of having to use cobblestone! :D

Meh, the most I use InvEdit for is to give myself powerful picks and shovels. I am trying to be as cheat-free as possible, as its fun exploring and digging through caves, but I am not going to carry 10 picks and 10 shovels just so I can stay in a cave longer, instead I gave myself a diamond shovel and pick, with the lowest health value (something like -32765 or some odd) which basically means it lasts forever (it lasts so ridiculously long that I used a stone version for half of my mine to the bottom of the map, and it still had -322xx health left, which took an hour or two of solid picking through rock, and my new one is diamond which lasts even longer).

In short, the most I am cheating is not having to run back to make tools every 30 minutes, all the materials I am using for construction though are materials I actually gathered by mining and digging.

Jeez it's almost midnight, last i checked the time it was only 7:30. Damn addictive game >.<

On the bright side i've been very busy improving my main fort, adding more rooms, adding a huge wall of glass panels and a whole new room. Completely demolishing one side of my fort and replacing with a huge open area with some lava and water falling from the roof and a small river with a bridge over it that leads out to a staircase outside which leads down to a side project, an underwater base with more self made caverns and such in it, not sure what i will do with it yet, but it looks cool.

:)

Video of my build so far:

Nice, how long have you been playing? I have been doing my mine for roughly 3 days now (tonight will be the third day) and I have the entire main shaft carved out, but I am now working on replacing the stone ceiling with glass so I can light the mine with lava instead of torches, I am only about 2/7ths of the way done the glass ceiling, but it requires so damn much glass half my time is spent smelting it.

Still got a long way to go before I have anything really good, but as soon as I can finish the ceiling I plan on adding a minecart system so I can go to the bottom and back in a few seconds rather than taking 20+ seconds to travel either way. Other then that mine, I really have nothing worth showing off yet though, I originally started on a large house, and I have a square cobblestone pad with a 2 tile high wall around the outside so animals do not get in (and a door so I can get in) but no other progress on that yet. I will probably eventually attach it to my mine in some way, but thats days if not weeks down the road cause I have so much more I want to do with my mine before I work on my house.

[mail]

Jeez it's almost midnight, last i checked the time it was only 7:30. Damn addictive game >.<

On the bright side i've been very busy improving my main fort, adding more rooms, adding a huge wall of glass panels and a whole new room. Completely demolishing one side of my fort and replacing with a huge open area with some lava and water falling from the roof and a small river with a bridge over it that leads out to a staircase outside which leads down to a side project, an underwater base with more self made caverns and such in it, not sure what i will do with it yet, but it looks cool.

:)

Video of my build so far:

You have a pretty cool world (Y). Mind posting the seed? (The level.dat file found in the saves folder)

[Evolution]

Jeez it's almost midnight, last i checked the time it was only 7:30. Damn addictive game >.<

On the bright side i've been very busy improving my main fort, adding more rooms, adding a huge wall of glass panels and a whole new room. Completely demolishing one side of my fort and replacing with a huge open area with some lava and water falling from the roof and a small river with a bridge over it that leads out to a staircase outside which leads down to a side project, an underwater base with more self made caverns and such in it, not sure what i will do with it yet, but it looks cool.

:)

Video of my build so far:

Did you have to move the lava one block at a time to get it on the surface? Was the minecart powered?

[Alladaskill17]

I voted no clue a while back, but judging from the screens, yes I know its simple and I guess free - but I'll give it a go when the they update textures.

[Brandon H Supervisor]

well, I found the bottom of the world, gotta say, wasn't expecting to fall to my death lol :p

[Nagisan]

Did you have to move the lava one block at a time to get it on the surface? Was the minecart powered?

If you put lava on top a block it will spill down over the sides in all directions (I think at least) so he probably only used a block or two of lava (would have to watch it again to be sure).

And no, the minecart wasn't powered, powered carts require fuel and (I think) move slower then that. There is a glitch you can use to boost a minecart up to its max speed, once done it can travel a very far distance without needing another boost, but another boost farther down the track will once again boost it to its max speed. Google up minecart booster to get an idea on how to do it. Basically it involves putting a second minecart on a short piece of track right next to your main track. When your cart passes the other one, they both move up to the max speed in the direction you are going. Your booster cart stops at the end of its track, and the cart on your main track continues moving at its max speed (slowly slowing down).

I voted no clue a while back, but judging from the screens, yes I know its simple and I guess free - but I'll give it a go when the they update textures.

There are texture packs, it is unlikely the textures will officially change much (if at all) from where they are right now though.

well, I found the bottom of the world, gotta say, wasn't expecting to fall to my death lol :p

Did you dig into a large cave that went to the bottom and fall, or did you fall through a glitched square? There is a glitch that causes the player to fall through the bottom of the world, its known as "The void" and its not a normal part of the map, there is typically bedrock which is made out of indestructible blocks of material that usually prevents you from falling out of the map. But a glitch that causes bedrock to not spawn on some squares allows for holes through the map to form. Its best to plug it up with something like glass when you see one though so you can easily identify it as a hole to the void later on without risking falling through it without destroying the glass first.

[Brandon H Supervisor]

yes, i found the void :p

i'll post a video of it later

[Nagisan]

update!

The Seecret Friday part ended up being extremely tiny this time around, but that?s because I made sure to add this:

+ Added server-side inventory

+ Made the server save player locations when they leave the server

+ Made chests work in SMP

+ Made signs work in SMP

+ Made furnaces work in SMP

+ Added monsters=false to server.properties. You can turn it on for experimental monsters, but you can?t hurt them directly yet. (Fire works, though!)

Compass was added, it takes 4 iron and a redstone (redstone in the very middle of the crafting block, then 1 iron on each direct side of it....1 above, 1 below, 1 left and 1 right of the redstone).

The compass ALWAYS points to your spawn point (instead of just north), which means you can go WHERE EVER you want, and just follow the compass to get back to your spawn point. So build around your spawn or move your spawn point with a map editor to your base and you will always be able to get back to your base no matter how far away from it you travel.

[Kussie]

Did you have to move the lava one block at a time to get it on the surface? Was the minecart powered?

Yeah i did this is a screenie of what the top of my water and lava falls look like:

http://i53.tinypic.com/nlr1b4.jpg

As for the minecarts i used the booster trick at both of my station and one in the middle. When you get to a station the minecart goes up into a holding pattern and continues on a small loop with the booster until you step on a pressure plate linked with redstone wire and activates a switch and sends the minecart down to where you are standing.

This video better shows off my minecart system:

[Nagisan]

Well my lava-lit mine is finished (the lava-lighting at least, still much more I want to do with it). The lava roof is essentially 1 block high, 7 blocks wide, and goes down the entire length of my cave. It took over 700 glass blocks (which required over 700 sand and over 80 coal to smelt it all), I tested it with water and all went perfect except for one of the seven widths of block (water and lava flow by 1 block when you have them flowing down hill until it hits the bottom), I forgot to remove a single cobblestone block from between the glass and the stone above the glass (which prevents the lava from spilling out past the area I have built so far).

I then worked on lighting my small storage room with lava in the same manner....sadly liquid mechanics in the game are not great so I couldn't just knock out the glass between the two and watch the rooms ceiling fill up, I had to fill it separately, but it looks great now that its done.

Lava is also quite bright, the amount I have lights up just as much as 1 torch every other block (torch -> block -> torch) on each side of the 7-wide tunnel, but without the eyesore of a ton of torches and it frees up space for doing more work on the walls or floor down through the mineshaft.

I will take some video of it later, probably once I get my minecart system up and running (not finished, just running so I can go up and down my mine much quicker).

I also managed to create a gravity well in the water. I was messing around with lava, built 2 blocks above the water then poured lava onto the top block. Once it filled out and made cobblestone all around the blocks I built up out of the water I put the lava back in a bucket and let it drain. I collected all the cobblestone and now just offshore I have a spot of water where the water is 2 blocks deep, but a 1x1 square is only 1 block deep (surrounded by 2-blocks deep of water) that will NOT fill up to 2 blocks deep. Also, if I get within a few blocks of that anomaly, it pulls me towards it, eventually allowing me to stand on the bottom of the ocean in 1 block of water, while being surround by water thats 2 blocks high. I have tried everything to fix it, removing that block of water (can't remove it), filling that block in with more water (does nothing), even putting blocks in place of the water does not fix it (it still pulls me towards the spot even when other blocks are in that square). I think I somehow corrupted that block by dumping water over lava, then removing the lava and mining the cobblestone....

[Brandon H Supervisor]

the one thing that bugs me about this game is the fact that it's so CPU heavy