Sanjay Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 I want to be able to put the tabs on a separate line to the address bar. It's just too crowded as it is, I either end up with a tiny address bar, or tiny tabs. Looks cramped and not nice to work with.+11. There is too little space for opening lot's of tabs as I do. 2. The mouse has to be moved thatr much farther up, to switch between tabs. 3. Aesthetically also the tabs next to the address bar just don't look right. Why can't they simply allow the user to select where the user would like to have the tabs. I want the separate search box back. Maybe it's just me, and I'm missing something obvious, but I just can't perform a search properly from the address bar. Here are two examples.1) I want to do a google search for Neowin. I go to the address bar and type Neowin. The address bar unhelpfully fills in neowin.net because it's on both my history and bookmarks. So instead of just hitting enter as I used to do I now have to delete the extra first. Similarly if I search for Face, it unhelpfully auto completes that to Facebook.com. 2) I want to see what's happening with HP (who I work for), so I type HP in. After deleting the supurflous stuff again I hit enter, and I'm at HPs home page - great, except that I wanted to be at the first page of results of searching Google for HP. +1This is the one thing, if they don't bring back, that will make me stop using IE. It is absolutely senseless to have combined the search bar with the address bar. Amongst several problems I have doing searches without a dedicated search bar, the most important for me is that I type something in the search bar, and then simply select the search provider from the drop down list. At times then I wish to search the same using a different search provider, something I can do anymore without having to type the search words again. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593160930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Veteran Posted September 17, 2010 Veteran Share Posted September 17, 2010 if you need spellcheck then run a non ie based browser and they got it, ms will never implement a spell check as they are too lazy to add one. I'm sure you're the sort of person who would have said the same thing about them implementing a download manager :rolleyes: It's very possible they will add a spell-checker; perhaps not ready for the final version of IE 9, but sometime in the future. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593161088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke777 Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Ugly UI is ugly. Doesn't fit with any UI of Windows 7, Metro or Ribbon for that matter. Its a beta, but recently, Microsoft betas sport almost near final UI. Hi you can take a look at http://nighthawk-f22.deviantart.com/art/UI-for-the-new-IE9-179477904 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593161100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayW Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Also the back/forward buttons are missing their dropdown history list as well. Right Click on them :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593161116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
migo Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Turns out after some more use it isn't really missing anything. IE9 by default has malicious script blocking, and it has malicious site warnings, so that covers my two primary add ons in Firefox. I've also given accelerators a chance and they're pretty nifty now that they're paired with an interface that actually isn't ugly. IE9 has a very high chance of becoming my primary browser after it leaves beta. Not sure what my secondary one will be, as before IE8 was my backup browser as it handled a few things FF couldn't. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593161150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted September 17, 2010 Global Moderator Share Posted September 17, 2010 Right Click on them :) It's kinda hard to guess to right click a button which by design don't have any right click options to them like a file does or so on. The thought just never comes accross to most people, like me, and i'm pretty tech savy and all. I think it's still a good idea to have a small down arrow next to them like IE8 does. As for a spell checker, people keep sending feedback and asking for it, since chrome and so on have it and they're now more serious about competition they should get around to adding it in IE9. Beta 1 is pretty limited in a way that, imo, makes it so you can try the new features instead of just using it how you use other browsers. They'd much rather you test the pinning of tabs to the taskbar and so on so they can get feedback on that first. A spellchecker doesn't need much testing I'd say. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593161210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
F_C Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 When I try and sendfeedback it says I don't have Windows Live Sign-In, so directs me to a page to download it. When I download it on that page though it tells me I already have it. Any ideas? Thanks again. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593161966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gate1975mlm Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 A few things missing from IE8 are the following! 1. "Download manager" does not show the speed of your downloads any more :( 2. "Little arrow" next to your links in farorites list that allows you to open links in a new tab is missing :( 3. "Reopen Last Session" is missing from the toolbar :( Its now only in new tab window. 4. "QuickTabs" button is missing form toolbar :( However why is there still an option for it under Internet Options? Why in the world did Microsoft take these handy features away in IE 9 Beta? I hope they will return when IE9 goes final! Also just an idea. Instead of having all that wasted space at the top of the address bar Microsoft should move the "Tab bar" there! And then we can have all other things like Mail,RSS and print buttons next to the address bar. And another thing why do we still not have Thumbnails when moving our cursor over a tab? And why no "Paste and Go" for the address bar? As of now I am sticking with Chrome! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593162022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
migo Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 I like what they've done with IE9. In general I strip almost all features out of the browser so I only have tabs, address bar, back/forward and stop/refresh. I imagine they've done some studies and discovered that those features get used the vast majority of the time to the exclusion of all else and they decided to strip everything else out. IE is intended to be the everyman's browser, not the power user's one, and Chrome certainly showed how much people like minimalist interfaces. I still like the Chrome layout the best, but I can't stand that Webkit crashes so bad, and actually IE9 has the best crash recovery of any browser I've seen. It's kinda hard to guess to right click a button which by design don't have any right click options to them like a file does or so on. The thought just never comes accross to most people, like me, and i'm pretty tech savy and all. I think it's still a good idea to have a small down arrow next to them like IE8 does. Right click is the first thing you should try in anything. Right click is the contextual menu button, and in the context of the back button you get a history menu. It's quite reasonable to expect people to do it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593162096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d4rk5ky Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 ADBLOCK ! This has been the main reason why i refuse to use IE and always use Firefox :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593162230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibs Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 This has been the main reason why i refuse to use IE and always use Firefox :) I think this has been mentioned about a billion times in this thread already. IE has an adblock, its called inprivate filtering. Go get a .xml file, a few have already been listed, and import it. And voila. Or go use AdMuncher. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593162792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted September 17, 2010 Global Moderator Share Posted September 17, 2010 Right click is the first thing you should try in anything. Right click is the contextual menu button, and in the context of the back button you get a history menu. It's quite reasonable to expect people to do it. Not right clicking on something that's a button it's not. Right click on any other button in most apps and you get nothing aside from the basic window size and close options. You can try this in Windows explorer, or any app that comes to my mind. A single button with it's icon is set to do a specific task, one thing, you thus just left click it once to do w/e you expect it to do. Having to hold the back arror or right click it for a drop down menu is something I've yet to see in any other app out there. Simply trying it on other things doesn't help. What Opera 10.62 does if you left click and hold on the back button does bring up a list, but not right clicking. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593162922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Mac OS X has a build-in spellchecker for ages now. I'm finding it extremely annoying this still isn't present in Windows 7. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593162934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibs Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Mac OS X has a build-in spellchecker for ages now. I'm finding it extremely annoying this still isn't present in Windows 7. Why would you need a built in spell checker on Windows? Office has it, and well it's useful on a browser but thats about it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593162976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Veteran Posted September 17, 2010 Veteran Share Posted September 17, 2010 [...] What Opera 10.62 does if you left click and hold on the back button does bring up a list, but not right clicking. Left-clicking and holding on the 'back' button in IE 9 also brings up this menu, as well as right-clicking :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593163690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
migo Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Not right clicking on something that's a button it's not. Right click on any other button in most apps and you get nothing aside from the basic window size and close options. You can try this in Windows explorer, or any app that comes to my mind. A single button with it's icon is set to do a specific task, one thing, you thus just left click it once to do w/e you expect it to do. Having to hold the back arror or right click it for a drop down menu is something I've yet to see in any other app out there. Simply trying it on other things doesn't help. What Opera 10.62 does if you left click and hold on the back button does bring up a list, but not right clicking. Opera is designed by Mac users, it's not going to bring in right click functinality. Right click on any icon on the taskbar and see what shows up. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593164220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted September 18, 2010 Global Moderator Share Posted September 18, 2010 Opera is designed by Mac users, it's not going to bring in right click functinality. Right click on any icon on the taskbar and see what shows up. The taskbar isn't an app is it, which was my whole point. Right click on the back button in windows explorer, see what shows up. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593164236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gahbmwM5 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I'm disappointed that QuickTabs doesn't seem to be in this release. While it was never a feature that many people used, I think it does address the shortcomings of tabbed windows with 6+ tabbed pages. I'm glad that I reviewed this thread as (although I do not utilize this feature (QuickTabs) much, I see that the default settings within IE Internet options is checked----->Tabs----->Settings However, I could find the 'graphic feature' (in IE7/8) is suppose to be left of the group of tabs... http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Using-Quick-Tabs-in-Internet-Explorer Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593164882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakars Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I lmow this may be a little off topic, but would anyone know why some flash ads and games on IE9 beta dont run correctly. Meaning, when they are up and anything is moving there is a white area where the object has moved, or i can see part of the page behind the part of the ad that has moved. That kind of thing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593164898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gahbmwM5 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 You mean theres no button to open Quick Tabs? Because pressing ctrl-q does give you a UI to select which tab you want to use lol =/ lol....yes although Ctrl Q brings up the Quick Tab menu page, there is 'no UI graphic' on the tab bar... Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593164926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gahbmwM5 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 In the download manager window click "Options" Thanks...as I was just 'right clicking' then choosing Save As---->to Desktop instead of Vista Downloads directory, now I'm more comfortable with this...lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593164940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Why would you need a built in spell checker on Windows? Office has it, and well it's useful on a browser but thats about it. Yeah Office and iWork for Mac have it as well. Doesn't mean its isn't also convenient in other applications such as email clients, notes and even iPhoto, iMovie, Final Cut Pro, iCal, Address Book etc. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593164952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPGMBR Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 There are a few things that are missing that even IE8 has, like where's the option to save my tabs? Or to restart my last tab session? Also the back/forward buttons are missing their dropdown history list as well. The option to move tabs below or above the address bar as well would be good. The option to restart your last session is infact there. Its kinda odd how they implimented it because it kinda hides the feature. Anywho, onto the info you are looking for: Click: the Tools icon Click: Internet Options Change home page preference to "about:tabs" Next time you open IE, you'll see all the tabs you had open in your last session. Below the tabs are two options: Reopen Closed Tabs and Reopen Last Session Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593164982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gahbmwM5 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 So maybe it's not something I wish IE 9 had, but: I have a new Vaio x64 with Windows 7...I downloaded and ran IE 9 just fine. The only problem is that it places a white border around my gadgets...kinda annoying. Secondly, when I click "show desktop" on the bottom right corner, everything, included my gadgets disappear; showing just the desktop and the icons. I deleted IE 9 and my problems are gone, but I really wanted to use it as maybe my main browser. Any way to fix the problems with the gadget/desktop? Interesting here as I have Win Vista Home Premium 32 bit, and show the following 'ss' effects on my desktop with Windows Sidebar gadgets with IE9 installed: Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Definately something within the coding, GUI is making this bug appear... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593165108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
osm0sis Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 The taskbar isn't an app is it, which was my whole point. Right click on the back button in windows explorer, see what shows up. I follow you but they're just trying to advance things, it mimics the behavior of the Superbar with regards to jumplists. If you hold left click and wait, or hold left click and slide downward you'll see the same behavior as left+wait and left+slide up on the taskbar. Right click of course also brings up the jumplists and now the back and forward histories. It's new so perhaps a bit jarring/unexpected at first thought, but it's consistant with the new advancements to the way Windows behaves. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/938358-shame-ie9-beta-does-not-have/page/6/#findComment-593165690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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