qdave Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Luckily i had pregenerated 10 of everything so i didnt loose anything :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom II Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Luckily i had pregenerated 10 of everything so i didnt loose anything :D (Y) Yup ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyboard Cowboy Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 It will have changed since the 5 keys thing. Unless anyone actually saved the old one I don't know if it did ever say the amount of keys available though I'm more curious to see if there's a part of it stating they can do what they please when they please... If that's the case the only people TechNet subscribers can be mad at is themselves... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom II Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I'm more curious to see if there's a part of it stating they can do what they please when they please... If that's the case the only people TechNet subscribers can be mad at is themselves... Hmm yea... more than likely it will say something along the lines of "MS Reserve the right to change this agreement...... etc etc " Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyboard Cowboy Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Hmm yea... more than likely it will say something along the lines of "MS Reserve the right to change this agreement...... etc etc " Would be a leason in making sure to read the fine print I suppose Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Oh, yeah... And to those saying these are for evaluation purposes only, if you ever watched (or listened to) Windows Weekly, you would know that Paul Thurrott contacted Microsoft and asked about whether or not you could use this stuff for home purposes... Guess what? You can! Why do you think they made another subscription option? One is for the home user, another is for IT. None of the subscriptions are for "the home users" and none of them allow what you're saying. TechNet is not a cheap way to buy software in bulk, it's a service designed to provide you with tools to evaluate and test Microsoft solutions. That is why the cost is low. Can you please show exactly where in the license it says what you're claiming? I am asking because the Microsoft site explicitly states the exact opposite of what you are claiming. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. Gibs Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 In other words, one user may install and use the evaluation software, only to evaluate it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
treemonster Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 None of the subscriptions are for "the home users" and none of them allow what you're saying. TechNet is not a cheap way to buy software in bulk, it's a service designed to provide you with tools to evaluate and test Microsoft solutions. That is why the cost is low. Can you please show exactly where in the license it says what you're claiming? I am asking because the Microsoft site explicitly states the exact opposite of what you are claiming. there are a few quotes in this article that say there is a technet sub for home use, but it says near the end of one of them that it is for evaluation of software and no for umm i think i twas put "production" use and something else. if you are using technet to install software on all your home pc's such as win 7 and office and so on, you are actually in violation of the EULA and TOS according to those quotes. no i'm not going to read and decipher the EULA for myself to make sure of this, but chances are you aren't going to either. it's basically an unlimited trial on teh trust system. so ofc it's going to be abused. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr aldo Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Once again, though, I will direct you here: http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/totw/technet2.asp Paul Thurrott already asked Microsoft about this, and you are allowed to use the software for home purposes ONLY, you cannot use it for commercial purposes... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibs Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Once again, though, I will direct you here: http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/totw/technet2.asp Paul Thurrott already asked Microsoft about this, and you are allowed to use the software for home purposes ONLY, you cannot use it for commercial purposes... In fact, Microsoft specifically says in its TechNet Subscriptions FAQ that "the TechNet Subscription license terms grant one user the right to install the program software on any devices, including those located at his or her home ... one user may install and use the evaluation software, only to evaluate it ONLY TO EVALUATE IT. Of course, MS knows that a lot of people who buy technet subs aren't doing it to evaluate their software. It's more like to get a copy of Windows to last them forever. Sure you can claim that you've been evaluating Windows 7 for the past year, and still haven't finished..but thats not exactly true now is it ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom II Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 ONLY TO EVALUATE IT. Of course, MS knows that a lot of people who buy technet subs aren't doing it to evaluate their software. It's more like to get a copy of Windows to last them forever. Does the agreement state how long the evaluation can last for ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibs Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Does the agreement state how long the evaluation can last for ? Nope, and like I said MS knows people will abuse it in that way. But they don't care, well so to say. They would much rather have some people (since not everyone knows about this) pay less for their software but still pay for it, rather than just go and download pirated copies. But as per the agreement you can only use it for evaluation, regardless of where its at. But how long you require to evaluate said product, is upto you. Also, I could be wrong, but wasn't Technet like $500-600 at one point of time? And now the cheapest one, which still gives you everything but enterprise software, is like $200. So you're still getting an excellent deal. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr aldo Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I am currently browsing Neowin on Google Chrome, I am just evaluating how well Windows 7 and Google Chrome get along, so far, I still haven't come up with a conclusion, hehe. But Microsoft would have to know people are doing that, and that could be why they lowered the amount of keys. Microsoft wouldn't have made another subscription option (TechNet Standard, more affordable) if they didn't want people using it at home. @Razorfold Well, it is $199 for TechNet Standard, however, you do not get access to Enterprise stuff (like Windows 7 Enterprise Edition), for $349, you do get Enterprise stuff, and for $599, you can get all that, AND media (so you can get DVD's instead of download only). Here is the page, if anyone is interested: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/default.aspx Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibs Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I am currently browsing Neowin on Google Chrome, I am just evaluating how well Windows 7 and Google Chrome get along, so far, I still haven't come up with a conclusion, hehe. But Microsoft would have to know people are doing that, and that could be why they lowered the amount of keys. Microsoft wouldn't have made another subscription option (TechNet Standard, more affordable) if they didn't want people using it at home. Exactly ;) If you're a home user they won't do anything, not worth the costs. However if you use Technet in a production environment (ie servers etc) and MS finds out, you might be in serious trouble. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if half the keys on eBay and stuff are just technet licenses being resold. And this is probably what MS is trying to avoid. I mean if they're giving you 10 keys+ for like $200, and then you go and sell 9 of them for like $100 each.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 And what right do you have to tell Microsoft how they can and cannot price their products? The fact that you disagree with their prices doesn't give you the authoritative right to say they deserve to have their products pirated, in fact it is because of people with attitudes like yours that the prices of their products does keep going up. I agree but there's no point talking to him. He made an ignorant comment and now he's not man enough to face up to it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr aldo Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Exactly ;) If you're a home user they won't do anything, not worth the costs. However if you use Technet in a production environment (ie servers etc) and MS finds out, you might be in serious trouble. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if half the keys on eBay and stuff are just technet licenses being resold. And this is probably what MS is trying to avoid. I mean if they're giving you 10 keys+ for like $200, and then you go and sell 9 of them for like $100 each.. Indeed (updated my post btw, added some stuff ;-), just extra stuff)... Though I have heard of people buying a computer with Windows on it, and the people find out it is a pirated version of Windows, and if you contact Microsoft and explain the situation, they will actually get you a legal license for the version of Windows on your computer... Of course I would think you would need to prove it, and give Microsoft information about where you got the computer from so they can see if it happens a lot, and then pursue legal actions. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentGray Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 But Microsoft would have to know people are doing that, and that could be why they lowered the amount of keys. Microsoft wouldn't have made another subscription option (TechNet Standard, more affordable) if they didn't want people using it at home. Yes, there's no legitmate reason for anyone to own technet standard except for abusing the license. Oh wait, we got it for our mid-sized company that dosn't need enterprise solutions, just the ability to evaluate new software on various OSes before we roll it to the whole company. *gasp* Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibs Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Indeed (updated my post btw, added some stuff ;-), just extra stuff)... Though I have heard of people buying a computer with Windows on it, and the people find out it is a pirated version of Windows, and if you contact Microsoft and explain the situation, they will actually get you a legal license for the version of Windows on your computer... Of course I would think you would need to prove it, and give Microsoft information about where you got the computer from so they can see if it happens a lot, and then pursue legal actions. Yeh I know they added the standard edition now, but before I think it was like $600 for the cheapest. Sure the standard doesn't give you enterprise stuff, but then really you don't need those anyways lol. Also if you google a very obvious search term, you can find 25%-30% off coupon codes ;) But like I said. Don't pull the license stuff when you're also not exactly following the agreement you signed lol, its lame. I haven't heard about them giving you a free copy of windows if you were a victim of software counterfeiting but in a way it does make sense. If you do use pirated copies, you're only a small fish in a much bigger pond. MS doesn't want you, they won't get much back, they want the people who sell the counterfeited copies. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr aldo Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Yeh I know they added the standard edition now, but before I think it was like $600 for the cheapest. Sure the standard doesn't give you enterprise stuff, but then really you don't need those anyways lol. Also if you google a very obvious search term, you can find 25%-30% off coupon codes ;) But like I said. Don't pull the license stuff when you're also not exactly following the agreement you signed lol, its lame. I haven't heard about them giving you a free copy of windows if you were a victim of software counterfeiting but in a way it does make sense. If you do use pirated copies, you're only a small fish in a much bigger pond. MS doesn't want you, they won't get much back, they want the people who sell the counterfeited copies. Bet that was awhile ago, I remember they used to only have like CD/DVD options, so every once in awhile they would send people a big binder full or CD's/DVD's, lol. That must have been fun! I don't remember where I heard that about getting a valid license if you purchased a pirated copy, it was awhile ago, and maybe I am just imagining things. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 there are a few quotes in this article that say there is a technet sub for home use, but it says near the end of one of them that it is for evaluation of software and no for umm i think i twas put "production" use and something else. Production use means a system that is actually in real world use, instead of just being used to evaluate and test. This applies even for a single installation. You cannot use it in the way most people are. And no, there is no "for home use" subscription. The available subscriptions are: Microsoft? TechNet Subscription Standard: Tailored to help IT Professionals evaluate, test, and troubleshoot Microsoft software for desktop environments. TechNet Standard does not include some enterprise editions of Microsoft software. Microsoft? TechNet Subscription Professional: Geared towards IT Professionals who need a more comprehensive subscription and are primarily focused on supporting enterprise wide environments such as the following scenarios: server consolidation, interoperability, network management and more. Microsoft? TechNet Subscription Professional with Media: Offers the same benefits as TechNet Professional, but is geared towards those organizations with bandwidth constraints and/or prefer a DVD copy of software. no i'm not going to read and decipher the EULA for myself to make sure of this, but chances are you aren't going to either. I have read it. Paul Thurrott already asked Microsoft about this, and you are allowed to use the software for home purposes ONLY, you cannot use it for commercial purposes... No. Anyone can use it for evaluation and test purposes, not "home purposes." Again, TechNet subscriptions are not a bulk discount system. That is what the family packs, student editions, and so on are. It is a service provided to aid "IT professionals" in evaluating and testing Microsoft solutions, nothing else. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbauer Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 No. Anyone can use it for evaluation and test purposes, not "home purposes." Again, TechNet subscriptions are not a bulk discount system. That is what the family packs, student editions, and so on are. It is a service provided to aid "IT professionals" in evaluating and testing Microsoft solutions, nothing else. To clarify, the location doesn't matter as long as you are using the software accordingly. You may use it at home if you're using it for evaluating purposes only. Can I use evaluation software received in my TechNet Subscription on my devices in my home? The TechNet Subscription license terms grant one user the right to install the program software on any devices, including those located at his or her home, but the user must fully comply with all the license terms no matter where the device is located. In other words, one user may install and use the evaluation software, only to evaluate it. You may not use it in a live operating environment, a staging or production environment, or with data that has not been sufficiently backed up. You may not use the evaluation software for software development or in an application development environment. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/ms772427.aspx That last sentence is the reason why I have never purchased a TechNet subscription. MSDN is where I have to live. I did, however, purchase a retail copy of Windows 7. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
treemonster Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 @hdood there was a guy quoting a ms employee saying it was fine of r home use with iirc a link. that's what i referring to. but i agree with you. and who ever actually reads EULAs? lolz :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 @hdood there was a guy quoting a ms employee saying it was fine of r home use with iirc a link. that's what i referring to. but i agree with you. and who ever actually reads EULAs? lolz :p No, he linked to a Paul Thurrott site with incorrect information. Thurrott adds "commercial use," even though Microsoft does not say that. If the Microsoft site and Paul Thurrot's site disagree, Microsoft's site is always right. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Charming Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I would say ?50-60 I buy the OS that I use everyday for 3-4 years or so until a new OS is released I also buy a 1TB HDD that I use for approximately the same length of time, and also use everyday - but I don't need a licence for it, or have to question my legal rights to put it in a different PC Eh, no you don't. You BUY a 1TB HDD. You LICENSE your OS (in the case of Windows). Hence you need a LICENSE for it, and don't have automatically transferrable rights. Because you don't own it. You never did - just because you paid for something doesn't mean you own it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/940650-microsoft-halves-number-of-available-technet-keys/page/4/#findComment-593190634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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