DrunknMunky Veteran Posted October 30, 2010 Veteran Share Posted October 30, 2010 It's closer to reality than the current effect, to be honest. Look at the lighting on the statues - much better and "real" feeling: Giving Doom 3 a run for its money Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593321088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealMySoda Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Simple - only the host is allowed VATS but the co-op player still gets the slowdown effect. Imagine it though - a melee character and a sniper :D Sniper sitting on a distant hilltop while instructing the melee character of where to move/sneak before setting up a can of whoop-ass :D Melee character working in close - sniper activates VATS to take out an onrushing Legion Veteran before his can land a vicious blow. It would be hot. Thinking it would be a great DLC, or at least some food for thought for FO4. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593321108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WastedJoker Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Giving Doom 3 a run for its money You think this is better? :pinch: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593321434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted October 30, 2010 Veteran Share Posted October 30, 2010 What, being able to see the game I'm playing? Yeah, I do lol. It might not be realistic but at least it's better than looking at a black screen. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593321464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YounGMessiah Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Mine does not look as dark as the one posted a couple posts before this. What button is the flashlight for the Pipboy on PC?? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593321832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lingwo Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Hold the Pip Boy button (default tab) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593321860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YounGMessiah Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Thanks lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593321934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YounGMessiah Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Oh I also suggest (saying this for PC, might be for others) saving every time! I already had the game freeze on me three times after I just did a lot and I forgot that if you wear a gangs uniform you will be seen as them; I ended up having to kill everyone at the NCR prison place and was wondering why they attacked me for no reason lol. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593321960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetham Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Simple - only the host is allowed VATS but the co-op player still gets the slowdown effect. Imagine it though - a melee character and a sniper :D Sniper sitting on a distant hilltop while instructing the melee character of where to move/sneak before setting up a can of whoop-ass :D Melee character working in close - sniper activates VATS to take out an onrushing Legion Veteran before his can land a vicious blow. It would be hot. I would rather they just get rid of VATS all together in co-op. Just disable it for co-op play. My biggest complaint with FO3 was that to have any sort of real accuracy, using VATS was the only true way to do it. You could have a guy right in your face and still have a good chance of missing him if you did not use VATS, even though your reticule is right on center mass. I like VATS to toy around with people and do limb targeting and everything like that. I just think the FO3 relied too much on it and unfortunately New Vegas has done the same. I still enjoy the game anyways with or without VATS. Im sitting at over 50 hours played now and have no clue how close I am to the end of the main story because I have done nothing but explore, loot, and do the occaisional side quest. I do agree though that co-op would be a blast and coordinating attacks on targets would be truely epic in this game. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593322630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WastedJoker Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I've hardly used VATs in New Vegas because gunning and running has been so good, to be fair. Only ever used it to beanbag Deathclaws to knock them out so I can deal with them at leisure. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593322644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SYBINX Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I think I might have found a potential area for an add-on or DLC on the way to Novac. I came across this area where there is a railway entrance on the side of a mountain... I shall rephrase that, it's more of a hill than a mountain really. Well I was thinking either this was just put there as a one off and just as a spur of the moment, or maybe they might be doing something with this later on...? When you are taking a snapshot of Fallout 3 or Fallout Vegas, [Press] ` then type in the following command, tm then press enter, this will turn off the HUD display. please remember to turn back on because if you use your PIPBOY 3000 you will have no display, just [Press] ` again and then retype tm again to turn this back on again. It takes the ugly screenshot from the top left hand corner and removes the HUD from the picture. Odd being stuck on the side of a hill...? with my helper, he's very handy helps you when fighting as well. I thought I would add my picture of MOJAVE in daylight Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593322718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YounGMessiah Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I forgot where is that helping robot? I remember seeing it not working, but with the possibility of reviving, but cant remember where. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593322736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetham Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I forgot where is that helping robot? I remember seeing it not working, but with the possibility of reviving, but cant remember where. Mojave express building in primm across the street from the casino. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593322746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corris Veteran Posted November 1, 2010 Veteran Share Posted November 1, 2010 I'm definitely not enjoying New Vegas as much as Fallout 3, I feel rather limited in what I can do compared to my level. In FO3, when I got out I could generally go in whatever direction and randomly come across things, but I've been butchered, eaten and pulverised a good number of times now in the name of exploration, and this is on Very Easy, so I feel stuck in doing the same thing all the time till I am higher, it just doesn't seem as fun. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593325904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetham Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I'm definitely not enjoying New Vegas as much as Fallout 3, I feel rather limited in what I can do compared to my level. In FO3, when I got out I could generally go in whatever direction and randomly come across things, but I've been butchered, eaten and pulverised a good number of times now in the name of exploration, and this is on Very Easy, so I feel stuck in doing the same thing all the time till I am higher, it just doesn't seem as fun. I can definitely see how this can be troublesome for people. There is a noticable difference in enemy difficulty compared to FO3. There have been a couple times where I have been slaughtered by one thing or another. I have had to change my play style from FO3 to accomedate this and even still I make a stupid mistake every now and then in the name of exploration over personal safety. I do welcome the increase in difficulty though. I always enjoy a challenge and to see how many different ways I can accomplish a certain task. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593326034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
____ Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I can definitely see how this can be troublesome for people. There is a noticable difference in enemy difficulty compared to FO3. There have been a couple times where I have been slaughtered by one thing or another. I have had to change my play style from FO3 to accomedate this and even still I make a stupid mistake every now and then in the name of exploration over personal safety. I do welcome the increase in difficulty though. I always enjoy a challenge and to see how many different ways I can accomplish a certain task. I found this kind of annoying too, not really the increased difficulty itself, but the linear way in which they walk you through the main story line and side quests. In Fallout 3 I spent much more time exploring and finding the side quests on my own, in New Vegas I haven't really spent anytime exploring, it seems like I'm always on a one way street moving forward. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593326054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corris Veteran Posted November 1, 2010 Veteran Share Posted November 1, 2010 I can definitely see how this can be troublesome for people. There is a noticable difference in enemy difficulty compared to FO3. There have been a couple times where I have been slaughtered by one thing or another. I have had to change my play style from FO3 to accomedate this and even still I make a stupid mistake every now and then in the name of exploration over personal safety. I do welcome the increase in difficulty though. I always enjoy a challenge and to see how many different ways I can accomplish a certain task. I don't have a problem so much with making things more difficult or creating a greater challenge, but more to do with that of the difficulty of everything even on Very Easy being stupidly hard, which to me stifles part of the charm and draw that FO3 had. I absolutely think the challenge should be there for those that want to face it, and things like Hardcore mode help bring the game to life a bit more, but most of the time I will play a game through the first time for the story and have no urge to get stuck at certain points for hours because of some stupid enemy that is incredibly overpowered for the difficulty I am on, after which I will come back and at more of a challenging skill level, and for games like Fallout, I think you always need that first easier run through to understand certain mechanics of the stat and levelling system which can easily be ruined if you have no idea what your doing at the begining of the game. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593326082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted November 1, 2010 Supervisor Share Posted November 1, 2010 I'm not entirely sure how close to the end I am now, but I've spent the time doing the main quest (hunting down the guy that took your package and shot you). This has caused me the same issues as many above me, in that it's now getting to the point where I can't take these later guys down on my own. However, just as with FO3, life gets much simpler if you get a companion to join you. Me, I've gone for Boone and I've already seen a difference. Also, unless I'm mistaken, anything that your companion kills seems to give XP to you? This didn't seem to be the case in FO3 (you had to deal the most damage to the enemy to get XP), but at least it means that Boone can at least reduce a target from afar before I need to start using my precious ammo reserves. :laugh: Overall I'm having a blast. I agree that the feeling isn't quite the same as with FO3, but I'm still being entertained and lo and behold I turned on the PS3 about 10 hours ago and have only just turned it off (I've been ill today so I've had the time to hand while I recover :p). My plan for this weekend - since that is more than likely the next chance I'll get to play - is to go off and do some more exploring. Having browsed through this thread there have been some interesting things that I would like to go and check out. One question I have though: Does NV play out the same as FO3 in that, even if you haven't done everything (side quests, exploration etc.), by getting to the end of the main quest the game finishes and you need to restart? That was the one thing that really bugged me about FO3, and the only reason that I bought Broken Steel, so that I could then go and explore and do side quests. Maybe I just need to rethink my strategy when playing the Fallout games, and I should allow myself to get sidetracked... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593328110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted November 1, 2010 Veteran Share Posted November 1, 2010 As far as I know, when you finish the last mission that's it, you have to start over. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593328112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted November 1, 2010 Supervisor Share Posted November 1, 2010 As far as I know, when you finish the last mission that's it, you have to start over. Thanks for the tip. That settles it then, this weekend I'm going 'sploring. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593328130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironman273 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 As far as I know, when you finish the last mission that's it, you have to start over. Ugh. That's the ONE thing I didn't like in FO3. I figured since they "fixed it" with Broken Steel they wouldn't do the same thing in FONV. I decided to get the Explorer perk so I could go exploring before I go into the Strip. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593328388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corris Veteran Posted November 1, 2010 Veteran Share Posted November 1, 2010 Ugh. That's the ONE thing I didn't like in FO3. I figured since they "fixed it" with Broken Steel they wouldn't do the same thing in FONV. I decided to get the Explorer perk so I could go exploring before I go into the Strip. Annoying isn't it, Bethesda even said after FO3 came out that the biggest complaint was putting a full stop ending and that in future they wouldn't, then Obsidian do it anyway. I wont be happy if some DLC arrives later that lets us play afterwards after all the fuss Obsidian went on about not being able to continue after the endings, they should have just plopped us outside of New Vegas as if the last mission regardless of faction hadn't happened and just taken away those quest elements. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593328410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironman273 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 The biggest pain in my exploring has been this: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593328420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corris Veteran Posted November 1, 2010 Veteran Share Posted November 1, 2010 The biggest pain in my exploring has been this: Haha, when I was talking to my friend about New Vegas I just refer to them as death with wings, I just run for it when I see them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593328440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted November 1, 2010 Supervisor Share Posted November 1, 2010 Annoying isn't it, Bethesda even said after FO3 came out that the biggest complaint was putting a full stop ending and that in future they wouldn't, then Obsidian do it anyway. I wont be happy if some DLC arrives later that lets us play afterwards after all the fuss Obsidian went on about not being able to continue after the endings, they should have just plopped us outside of New Vegas as if the last mission regardless of faction hadn't happened and just taken away those quest elements. Well I considered it a major drawback with FO3, and when I realised that if I wanted to continue with my character I had to buy Broken Steel, I thought, "I wonder if someone planned this?" Go figure, if the flaw (and I do regard this as a flaw) still exists, I bet Obsidian thought, "If we don't do this then there won't be as many sales on the DLC, so it will look like what we did wasn't as good as what Bethesda did." The biggest pain in my exploring has been this: <snip> Ha, I was wondering around today and saw that I was in [Danger]. I turn around and see this thing set down in front of me. "It's just a bug, I can take him." Boy, was I wrong! Two stabs from that thing and I was out. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/10/#findComment-593328456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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