Nagisan Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Guessed wrong. Tried most weapons against them and they dont go down.They die in a few shots when I shoot them......I actually rarely use my Gauss rifle because 1-2 hit kills get sort of annoying when your trying to have fun.Why should I have to use codes to get the AI back? I didnt have to in FO3. You might not have had to, but other people did. FO3 is infamous for disappearing NPCs, both essential and non essential. Sometimes they simply fall through the map never to return unless the user uses console commands to bring them back.Hating a game because of bugs, regardless if repairable by the user, is fine with me. Users shouldnt have to do work arounds, hacks, tweaks...whatever..to get a game working correctly and that should of been working properly to begin with. I dont know how this game got beyond testing, but they half assed it. AND I still CANNOT completed the "Fly away with me" quest without every saved game after being corrupted.And speaking of corrupted game saves....I have been manually saving my game OFTEN since other people reported the game save issue in other quests. Sucks, FOV sucks, and I cannot wait for ME3 or AC3. Fallout 3 had the same bugs (technically more), so I don't see how someone could praise one game while hating another (or at the very least call the follow-up worse) due to bugs, when the game they are comparing it to has JUST as many bugs. I have only completed the "Come Fly with me" quest once as I only have one playthrough, but it didn't corrupt my saves, and FO3 had similar bugs with corrupted saves..... I will admit FO3 and FO:NV are not on the level of Mass Effect or Assassins Creed, but they, to me at least, are still fun games. As mentioned I personally have not hit any showstopper bugs with the recent FO games, therefore I may be a bit lucky on that aspect, but to say FO:NV sucks compared to FO3 is just idiotic when FO3 had even more bugs. Oddly enough, I did hit a showstopper bug in ME2, or at least a small one. During the final mission, I got stuck on a guard rail. I tried to get my character off of it but I couldn't and as such eventually died because I couldn't get behind cover or anything. All it took was a reload, but I still had to go back and play through parts of that mission that I had already gotten past because of a bug......didn't stop me from continuing but I suppose if it kept happening to someone then it would be a major showstopper bug. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593486488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 They die in a few shots when I shoot them......I actually rarely use my Gauss rifle because 1-2 hit kills get sort of annoying when your trying to have fun. I have the gauss rifle and my energy skills are in the 90s...still takes 3-4 shots to kill them. Then my weapon gets damaged and it costs a lot to repair. You might not have had to, but other people did. FO3 is infamous for disappearing NPCs, but essential and non essential. Sometimes they simply fall through the map never to return unless the user uses console commands to bring them back. Maybe so, but I never had any issues in FO3 Fallout 3 had the same bugs (technically more), so I don't see how someone could praise one game while hating another (or at the very least call the follow-up worse) due to bugs, when the game they are comparing it to has JUST as many bugs. I have only completed the "Come Fly with me" quest once as I only have one playthrough, but it didn't corrupt my saves, and FO3 had similar bugs with corrupted saves..... Again, FO3 may of had more bugs...I dont know since I had little to no issues with FO3. And the bugs in FO3 were not show stoppers like the corrupt saved game issues in FOV. I will admit FO3 and FO:NV are not on the level of Mass Effect or Assassins Creed, but they, to me at least, are still fun games. As mentioned I personally have not hit any showstopper bugs with the recent FO games, therefore I may be a bit lucky on that aspect, but to say FO:NV sucks compared to FO3 is just idiotic when FO3 had even more bugs. Dont call what I am saying idiotic just because you experience things differently. I am not the only one not happy with FOV. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593486510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamp0 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Hating a game because of bugs, regardless if repairable by the user, is fine with me. Users shouldnt have to do work arounds, hacks, tweaks...whatever..to get a game working correctly and that should of been working properly to begin with. I dont know how this game got beyond testing, but they half assed it. AND I still CANNOT completed the "Fly away with me" quest without every saved game after being corrupted. The good news is that there is a patch coming either tuesday or wednesday that will fix a ton of bugs including all the corrupted quests. Also I believe that the saves don't get corrupted but rather the games can't load them correctly so after this patch you should be able to load up those saves. FO3 had even more bugs. You mean you experience more bugs Fallout 3. Because I've experience more bugs in New Vegas. When my saves failed to load I stopped playing and awaited a patch; which has taken nearly two months. I don't know how this game got passed testing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593486534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 The good news is that there is a patch coming either tuesday or wednesday that will fix a ton of bugs including all the corrupted quests. Also I believe that the saves don't get corrupted but rather the games can't load them correctly so after this patch you should be able to load up those saves. Been hearing about a patch soon for weeks now...hope this one is real and works as it should. Still, FOV offers really nothing new that FO3. Just a different map. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593486548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagisan Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 I have the gauss rifle and my energy skills are in the 90s...still takes 3-4 shots to kill them. Then my weapon gets damaged and it costs a lot to repair.What difficulty are you playing? On the easiest they only take a couple shots at most to die. I honestly haven't repaired my Gauss rifle since I got it and it is still in pretty good condition, but I also only use it for encounters where I think I need to (such as killing everything in the Caesar camp). I mostly use the standard sniper rifle to deal with threats, it takes maybe 3-4 shots with that excluding any damage Boone or the dog do......it certainly shouldn't take 3-4 Gauss Rifle shots to kill a single thing unless you have it on a higher difficulty.Maybe so, but I never had any issues in FO3 Neither did I, but I still was aware of the major bugs it had. Again, FO3 may of had more bugs...I dont know since I had little to no issues with FO3. And the bugs in FO3 were not show stoppers like the corrupt saved game issues in FOV. There actually were a few show stoppers, such as the one I mentioned, NPCs falling through the wasteland. It could happen to mainquest essential NPCs and unless you used console commands you couldn't continue with the storyline. Dont call what I am saying idiotic just because you experience things differently. I am not the only one not happy with FOV. I'm just saying it's idiotic to compare two games with similar bugs and call one worse than the other, if they have similar bugs they should be nearly the same in terms of game quality, right? Been hearing about a patch soon for weeks now...hope this one is real and works as it should. Still, FOV offers really nothing new that FO3. Just a different map. True, it only offers a new "map" and storyline, but the same could said for many game sequels (yes I know, FO:NV wasn't a sequel, but you get the point). The only shortcoming of FO:NV is it didn't fix a majority of bugs that FO3 had. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593486924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 What difficulty are you playing? On the easiest they only take a couple shots at most to die. I honestly haven't repaired my Gauss rifle since I got it and it is still in pretty good condition, but I also only use it for encounters where I think I need to (such as killing everything in the Caesar camp). I mostly use the standard sniper rifle to deal with threats, it takes maybe 3-4 shots with that excluding any damage Boone or the dog do......it certainly shouldn't take 3-4 Gauss Rifle shots to kill a single thing unless you have it on a higher difficulty. I'm just saying it's idiotic to compare two games with similar bugs and call one worse than the other, if they have similar bugs they should be nearly the same in terms of game quality, right? I think I am at the default level of difficulty. But thats how I palyed with FO3...its a fact that things are harder to kill in Vegas. And no its not idiotic to compare to games like that. I never heard this big of backlash from players on much of anything FO3 related as I do with Vegas. And its been months and nothing has been done about the issues except for the PC version. Vegas affects almost everyone and the same issues happen on the PC version. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593487652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YounGMessiah Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I must admit I havent touched my copy for a while, got rather annoyed with the game, but doesnt mean I dont like it! I will be playing it again soon when I have the chance :p. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593488260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoadorable Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 i second everything techbeck is saying. nagisan, you love the game and have been lucky with it...that's great. don't discount other people as dumb or anything, the body of evidence against FONV is massive. i've talked to a bunch of people about it and 70% have reported problems with it - mostly the uneven difficulty and corrupted saves. i haven't had a corrupted save with it yet, but i believe everything they say. i also have the Strip lock-out glitch, which is effectively a game stopper. so unless Obsidian are about to give me back my $60 plus tax, they can go **** themselves with their incompetence. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593493360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 I must admit I havent touched my copy for a while, got rather annoyed with the game, but doesnt mean I dont like it! I will be playing it again soon when I have the chance :p. Same lol. About 2 weeks ago, I bought both FO3 and FOV, and played FOV for about 2 days. The 3rd day, I bought Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 2, MGS4, GTA4, Demons Souls, and ModNation Racers. I have been going between so many games lately, but none of them fallout lol. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593493800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Rambo Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 On 6th playthrough now. Already completed 5 times. :shifty: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593495944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoadorable Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 what's fair's fair, the new tiny 4MB update on the 360 fixed some thing, at least it took care of that glitch that had you locked out of the strip - now i can continue my adventure! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593526894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icarus ^i^ Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 Yeah, it's buggy as hell, but I still can't stop playing the damn game :p I had clocked 120+ hours and reached lvl30 ages ago before I even bothered to enter the strip... Can't wait for some dlc :) That being said, I hope the Elder Scrolls V engine will be much better than this pos, then we can hope for a polished Fallout 4... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593526908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick Shot Posted December 26, 2010 Author Share Posted December 26, 2010 Yeah, it's buggy as hell, but I still can't stop playing the damn game :p I had clocked 120+ hours and reached lvl30 ages ago before I even bothered to enter the strip... Can't wait for some dlc :) That being said, I hope the Elder Scrolls V engine will be much better than this pos, then we can hope for a polished Fallout 4... I just noticed on fallout's website that its first DLC just hit xbox... http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/games/fnv-dlc.html it's called dead money and the level cap goes up to 35....woot! the trailer looked pretty good...story line interesting...walking halogen girls.ehh.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593528614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistical Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I just noticed on fallout's website that its first DLC just hit xbox... http://fallout.beths...es/fnv-dlc.html it's called dead money and the level cap goes up to 35....woot! the trailer looked pretty good...story line interesting...walking halogen girls.ehh.. You should prepare to be disappointed, especially if you are a Fallout fan which mostly anyone will buy regardless of what they hear. My brother purchased it as soon as it was available and said the storyline ended up being terrible and complete with dark scenery (which is not always a problem, I know). Also just like every other Fallout DLC, they strip you of your items so you need to start of fresh, kind of gets annoying after awhile since it's always the same like this and the lack of new weapons/items even though there still were some in this one. I still plan on playing it, I just haven't had the time yet, but I know at least it is nothing spectacular. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593528642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick Shot Posted December 26, 2010 Author Share Posted December 26, 2010 You should prepare to be disappointed, especially if you are a Fallout fan which mostly anyone will buy regardless of what they hear. My brother purchased it as soon as it was available and said the storyline ended up being terrible and complete with dark scenery (which is not always a problem, I know). Also just like every other Fallout DLC, they strip you of your items so you need to start of fresh, kind of gets annoying after awhile since it's always the same like this and the lack of new weapons/items even though there still were some in this one. I still plan on playing it, I just haven't had the time yet, but I know at least it is nothing spectacular. well that's just great.. okay. well i know one think we should all be excited about....level cap has been increased by 5....does that give the player the ability to chose more perks? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593528670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistical Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 well that's just great.. okay. well i know one think we should all be excited about....level cap has been increased by 5....does that give the player the ability to chose more perks? Yes, a level cap increase is always great, even if it's only 5. :) You get to choose 2 more perks, one at level 32 and the other one at level 34. It also looks like there are possibly 14 new perks added to the list, do not take my word on this but just a quick search around the net there looks to be about this many, not sure if more or less though. These will also have requirements as the other perks have which Fallout players should be more than familiar with. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593528678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick Shot Posted December 26, 2010 Author Share Posted December 26, 2010 Yes, a level cap increase is always great, even if it's only 5. :) You get to choose 2 more perks, one at level 32 and the other one at level 34. It also looks like there are possibly 14 new perks added to the list, do not take my word on this but just a quick search around the net there looks to be about this many, not sure if more or less though. These will also have requirements as the other perks have which Fallout players should be more than familiar with. well that's good news =) I have another question for you since your brother beat dead money... Let's say you finish your main quest first...does the game give you the ability to continue or do you have to load a previous save to play dead money? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593529366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistical Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 well that's good news =) I have another question for you since your brother beat dead money... Let's say you finish your main quest first...does the game give you the ability to continue or do you have to load a previous save to play dead money? Once you start the DLC, you have to finish it, you can't go back until you finish it since there is no return. The only way you continue your game is not to read the letter at the end of the DLC. When you get to this point, without spoiling it, you should know what I mean. Like I already said, do NOT even read the letter as if you do, you will not be able to continue your game/character after doing so. You could always create 2 or more saves as you progress through the DLC in case you think by accident you will read the letter. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593529610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick Shot Posted December 28, 2010 Author Share Posted December 28, 2010 i think I'm half way done with this DLC.. i put dog/god in his new cage and just have to take care of the mute girl.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593533336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick Shot Posted December 28, 2010 Author Share Posted December 28, 2010 this addon gets pretty scary at times..especially when that stupid bell is chiming nonstop Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593533548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoadorable Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 does the DLC have the same broken sign posting and navigation as the main game? seriously, finding your way around the wasteland has never been so hard... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593534444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick Shot Posted December 29, 2010 Author Share Posted December 29, 2010 does the DLC have the same broken sign posting and navigation as the main game? seriously, finding your way around the wasteland has never been so hard... not that i'm aware of... edit...i'm not stuck anymore. haha Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593536786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick Shot Posted December 29, 2010 Author Share Posted December 29, 2010 oh man. it seems like i'm flooding this thread. mistical...do you know if your bro got away with all 37 gold bars? took me like 1 million + tries to do so. :shiftyninja: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593536906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistical Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 oh man. it seems like i'm flooding this thread. mistical...do you know if your bro got away with all 37 gold bars? took me like 1 million + tries to do so. :shiftyninja: I would not even consider it anywhere near flooding. These posts will eventually help someone else in one way or another, and already yourself in one way or another. His first few playthroughs in the DLC he didn't bother to try to get away with them. I know he eventually tried to do so by dropping them through the force field but wasn't able to on the Xbox 360 but he only tried twice, it really wasn't a concern to him. He read about this elsewhere, but those that did this were likely playing the PC version and easily did it that way, most likely. I haven't bothered reading online about this so don't really take mine or his word on how to possibly attempt to do this. He didn't only tried real quick like I said. But since you were able to finally get away with it after many tries, is this what you did? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593537180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick Shot Posted December 29, 2010 Author Share Posted December 29, 2010 I would not even consider it anywhere near flooding. These posts will eventually help someone else in one way or another, and already yourself in one way or another. His first few playthroughs in the DLC he didn't bother to try to get away with them. I know he eventually tried to do so by dropping them through the force field but wasn't able to on the Xbox 360 but he only tried twice, it really wasn't a concern to him. He read about this elsewhere, but those that did this were likely playing the PC version and easily did it that way, most likely. I haven't bothered reading online about this so don't really take mine or his word on how to possibly attempt to do this. He didn't only tried real quick like I said. But since you were able to finally get away with it after many tries, is this what you did? Yup. Well to make things easier, I destroyed all the turrets after opening the vault door before enterin the vault. Before killing the old guy, I dropped the gold by the blue shield. Now, I had trouble picking the gold up so I had to face the gold sideways and pick it up that way. I did it on the 360 by the way. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/946782-official-fallout-new-vegas/page/15/#findComment-593537356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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