.Neo Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 They removed it from Disk Utility? Why would you want to disable Journaling though? Something I did notice is DP2 is the lack of customize options (it forces you to install all languages, printer drivers etc.). Hopefully that's only for testing purposes as will be brought back once Apple finalizes Mac OS X Lion. Not that I care much on my iMac, but I can imagine it being a pain for people using a MacBook Air (for example). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593861416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 They removed it from Disk Utility? Why would you want to disable Journaling though? Something I did notice is DP2 is the lack of customize options (it forces you to install all languages, printer drivers etc.). Hopefully that's only for testing purposes as will be brought back once Apple finalizes Mac OS X Lion. Not that I care much on my iMac, but I can imagine it being a pain for people using a MacBook Air (for example). When I tried to format my USB Drive the only options I got were Journaled with or without encryption (or something like that, I'd have to check it again tonight maybe) And I don't really want Journaling on a USB Drive, makes sense on a hard drive but not for a usb stick Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593861710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Apparently Apple got rid of non-Jouraling on Mac OS X Lion DP2. It isn't showing up here either. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593861968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadEndAccount Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Apparently Apple got rid of non-Jouraling on Mac OS X Lion DP2. It isn't showing up here either. Any documentation on what they're doing with HFS+? I always got the impression that rather than create a new file system that they're going to gradually move the file system forward in much the same way that in the linux world ext2fs has evolved into ext3fs and then into ext4fs. From what I understand HFS+ is pretty modular so there is a lot of capacity to move the file system forward in a non-distructive way. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593862712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted April 7, 2011 Veteran Share Posted April 7, 2011 It makes sense to be consistent and have a journal, it's always possible for a drive to lose power/connection mid-write (especially USB devices), and it's also what Microsoft does with NTFS. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593864348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadEndAccount Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 It makes sense to be consistent and have a journal, it's always possible for a drive to lose power/connection mid-write (especially USB devices), and it's also what Microsoft does with NTFS. There is always exFAT if users want portability and support for large files :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593865136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 I noticed the graphite highlights in Mac OS X Lion DP2 are darker. Subtile change but a very nice one, makes things look more refined for some reason. Managed to port it over to Mac OS X Snow Leopard. (Y) iUserX5 and CPressland 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593865480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
instant.human Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 I noticed the graphite highlights in Mac OS X Lion DP2 are darker. Subtile change but a very nice one, makes things look more refined for some reason. Managed to port it over to Mac OS X Snow Leopard. (Y) Could you share that port? I really like the looks of it! :) CPressland 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593865554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPressland Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Could you share that port? I really like the looks of it! :) +1 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593865610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Sure, why not? :) Just apply with ThemePark. Afterwards you can trash the application, you use it one time only to change those system files. Obviously you would want to keep it around if you want to revert to your original files. A backup is made automatically by ThemePark and saved to /Library/Application Support/ThemePark so don't worry about that. Tested on Mac OS X Snow Leopard v10.6.7 only You have to log out and in again to see the changes. If ThemePark doesn't prompt you to authenticate you have to press the "Apply theme" button again. It does that sometimes. Enjoy! Mac OS X Lion.LeopardTheme.zip instant.human, iUserX5 and Alladaskill17 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593865684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
instant.human Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Great! Thanks! :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593865944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Thanks I'll try that tonight :D It also works restored to another partition (even one on the same drive). My drive has three partitions (SL, Lion running, and Lion installer) for that reason. Installing from a hard drive partition is *always* faster than installing from an optical drive. I did the same with SL (the installer is restored onto a *spare* hard drive partition on a different drive). Smaller SATA hard drives (100 GB or less) are, in fact, ideal for this use (especially used or pulls) - break them up into 10 GB partitions (OS install restores, common applications, utilities, etc.). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593866024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 It also works restored to another partition (even one on the same drive). My drive has three partitions (SL, Lion running, and Lion installer) for that reason. Installing from a hard drive partition is *always* faster than installing from an optical drive. I did the same with SL (the installer is restored onto a *spare* hard drive partition on a different drive). Smaller SATA hard drives (100 GB or less) are, in fact, ideal for this use (especially used or pulls) - break them up into 10 GB partitions (OS install restores, common applications, utilities, etc.). I ended up buying an 8GB usb drive (I needed one anyway) and it worked like a charm (and the install was FAST ;)) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593866036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Great! Thanks! :) You're welcome! Just let me know if everything went right for future reference. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593866534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
instant.human Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 You're welcome! Just let me know if everything went right for future reference. :) Only just found the time to log out and log in again. :p Everything went right. It's VERY subtile but definately better looking. Much like Aqua Extreme. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593866606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Everything went right. It's VERY subtile but definately better looking. Much like Aqua Extreme. ;) Yeah, I immediately noticed the change when I first logged into DP2. Unfortunately ThemePark won't read the resource files from Mac OS X Lion properly so I had to make this mod by taking screen shots. Luckily with minimal Photoshop & Preview work I managed to make it a 100% 1:1 match with the real deal. Anyway, glad you like it! :) PS It's funny because with this modification applied the Menu Bar and Spotlight highlights are actually consistent with the highlights of the black Dock contextual menus. Never noticed that before. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593866716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
strelok1911 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Sure, why not? :) Just apply with ThemePark. Afterwards you can trash the application, you use it one time only to change those system files. Obviously you would want to keep it around if you want to revert to your original files. A backup is made automatically by ThemePark and saved to /Library/Application Support/ThemePark so don't worry about that. Tested on Mac OS X Snow Leopard v10.6.7 only You have to log out and in again to see the changes. If ThemePark doesn't prompt you to authenticate you have to press the "Apply theme" button again. It does that sometimes. Enjoy! Can you please share the wallpaper that was used in the screenshots? Looks cool (the part of it) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593866740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Can you please share the wallpaper that was used in the screenshots? Looks cool (the part of it) The version I have on disk isn't for public release. Sorry. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593866770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme $niper Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 What's weird is that I just compared those screenshots to the Graphite appearance on my Snow Leopard machine and found no distinguishable difference. Perhaps it's just the color profiles in the browser messing with things... Anyway, if it actually has changed then that's cool. I just can't see it for some reason, so I'll stay with the system default. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593866802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Are you using Firefox? Anyway, the highlight color of Mac OS X Snow Leopard is more elephant grey, while the one found in Lion is more asphalt grey. It's a subtile difference, but noticeable nonetheless on my 27-inch iMac. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593866846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme $niper Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Are you using Firefox? Anyway, the highlight color of Mac OS X Snow Leopard is more elephant grey, while the one found in Lion is more asphalt grey. It's a subtile difference, but noticeable nonetheless on my 27-inch iMac. I was comparing against the menu that drops when you click the menubar's Apple. In any case, I normally use Blue anyway so maybe the difference wasn't as stark for me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593867380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I just remembered the other day that Apple filed in a patent request for a system that unmounts drives automatically: They're being locked down when not in use so you can disconnect without having to unmount them yourself first. Much like what happens with your iPod/iPhone/iPad when iTunes is done syncing. I was kinda expecting that for Mac OS X Lion, with it being being all iPad-centric. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593868038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme $niper Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I just remembered the other day that Apple filed in a patent request for a system that unmounts drives automatically: They're being locked down when not in use so you can disconnect without having to unmount them yourself first. Much like what happens with your iPod/iPhone/iPad when iTunes is done syncing. I was kinda expecting that for Mac OS X Lion, with it being being all iPad-centric. I still eject my iPod after it's done syncing... I guess it's just habit. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593868294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I still eject my iPod after it's done syncing... I guess it's just habit. Point is you don't have to with a iPod touch, iPhone or iPad... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593868748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme $niper Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Point is you don't have to with a iPod touch, iPhone or iPad... Right, I was referring to an iPod Touch. It's not really an advertised feature so I'll err on the side of caution and eject it anyway. It takes, what, 5 seconds? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/51/#findComment-593870738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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