Lunfai Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Can anyone upload the updated M.Fuji wallpaper please? =) thanks in advance! EDIT: found it! http://cl.ly/3I371o1z0w003t371d0l Wow, such a beautiful wallpaper. I like it way better than the first one. Thumbs up! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593843894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme $niper Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 They've also integrated the same feature you find on iOS devices, when holding a key down you get the option below. By holding what key down? The character key? How would repeating characters work then (like eeeeeeeeee)? Or is it a modifier key? It's a different photo altogether. New (left) vs old (right) Ah, thanks. I guess I don't see what the big deal is about it. There are much better wallpapers out there that are prettier to look at. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593843954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Veteran Posted March 31, 2011 Veteran Share Posted March 31, 2011 Laptop is back, dev program is renewed, DP2 is downloading :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593843958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Ah, thanks. I guess I don't see what the big deal is about it. There are much better wallpapers out there that are prettier to look at. I didn't see anyone here make a big deal out of it really. Beyond that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. By holding what key down? The character key? How would repeating characters work then (like eeeeeeeeee)? Or is it a modifier key? By pressing and holding any key, just like in iOS. Fast repeating of keys (eeeeeeeeee) has become impossible in Mac OS X Lion because of it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593844004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Fast repeating of keys (eeeeeeeeee) has become impossible in Mac OS X Lion because of it. Not much of a loss there. Does anybody really do repeating characters very often? :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593844122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Not much of a loss there. Does anybody really do repeating characters very often? :p It isn't to me. But since he was asking, I though I'd answer the question. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593844228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyX Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 After playing with it a little bit, I found something new in Mail, although Windows-Live-Mail-ish : We can also download a bunch of speech voices in different languages on demand. This is great :) Couple of rants : - They need to rework the overall GUI/UI of Chess, Text Edit, Font Book and Disk Utility. Oh, and the new iCal. - The transition to fullscreen is strange. I've never liked it. - They need to add a previous page and next page button in LaunchPad, because the little dots at the bottom are really small to click on (luckily we can use keyboard arrows). And a proper and easy way to remove applications from it. - Still a few bugs here and there, like default OS apps crashing around and graphics corruption. On first view, it's either worse or as stable as Developer Preview 1. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593844368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 After playing with it a little bit, I found something new in Mail, although Windows-Live-Mail-ish Mail Activity pop-up thing? That has been there since Mac OS X Tiger as far as I can recall, if not since Mac OS X Leopard. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593844376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 I think it was in Tiger's mail, although in all iterations it's hidden by default, at least it was on my system. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593844382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyX Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Ok, so DP2 is definitely less stable than DP1. Also new in Mail, I don't know if it's new or not, but there's a checkbox to display (in the summary of the email) the picture in Address Book associated with the contact that sent you the email. Very nice. I was talking about the GUI that is Windows-Live-Mail-ish, not the feature itself. I know it's been there since a long time. Here's an example : Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593844384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I really don't find DP2 any less stable in DP1. In fact, it fixed some of the most buggiest features from DP1, such as making Mission Control actually usable and several minor issues relating to Safari 5.1. As for Mail, yes, it's clearly drawn some inspiration from Windows Live Mail. But then Windows Live services in general has been inspired by some Mac and Linux projects. Everyone copies from one another, and in the end, it's going to lead to better products for all. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593844394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyX Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I had severe graphics corruptions on the "Upload picture" button in Safari 5.1, and Safari crashed a few times and told me Neowin?s forum page wasn?t responding. It was impossible for me to select any text at all once, it would only change the place of my cursor. I had a crash during the installation, needed to reboot. I never got any of that in DP1. I was extremely confident for the stablest major point release in OS X history, but now I?m not so convinced anymore. I doubt this can be released at WWDC, especially because if they present it at WWDC, it?s because they haven?t shown us a couple of new features yet to come. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593844412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I had severe graphics corruptions on the "Upload picture" button in Safari 5.1, and Safari crashed a few times and told me Neowin?s forum page wasn?t responding. It was impossible for me to select any text at all once, it would only change the place of my cursor. I had a crash during the installation, needed to reboot. I never got any of that in DP1. I was extremely confident for the stablest major point release in OS X history, but now I?m not so convinced anymore. I doubt this can be released at WWDC, especially because if they present it at WWDC, it?s because they haven?t shown us a couple of new features yet to come. Well for every new bug in DP2, I've found two more fixed that existed in DP1. Like the first build, DP2 is likely a much older build than the very latest one Apple is working on. I see no real major issues that would prevent this from being released this summer, as Apple said it will be. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593844434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyX Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Oh I?m sure it can be released in the summer (before September 20th or 21st, I don?t remember), no problem. But in the beginning of June? I need to see it to believe it :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593844508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Oh I?m sure it can be released in the summer (before September 20th or 21st, I don?t remember), no problem. But in the beginning of June? I need to see it to believe it :p Well, Apple said "early summer," which would imply a late June release or some time in July, as summer begins June 21. I'm not sure where people got the notion this is being released early June or before WWDC, because Apple never said anything like that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593844522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 iWork '09 doesn't work on DP2 at all, it won't even open, all you get is an error message. I think I remember Pages working on DP1. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593844766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme $niper Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I didn't see anyone here make a big deal out of it really. Beyond that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. By pressing and holding any key, just like in iOS. Fast repeating of keys (eeeeeeeeee) has become impossible in Mac OS X Lion because of it. I don't use repeating keys much at all, and if I do I guess I can just hit the button over and over again in rapid succession... but I guess it's a weird thought to lose such a basic functionality that systems have had for as long as I can remember. Mail Activity pop-up thing? That has been there since Mac OS X Tiger as far as I can recall, if not since Mac OS X Leopard. Actually I believe it was introduced in Snow Leopard. I distinctly remember not having that feature in Leopard while my co-worker on SL had it. After I got my new laptop, it showed up. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593844822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted April 1, 2011 Author Veteran Share Posted April 1, 2011 If you connect an external display and close the lid, it doesn't sleep the notebook anymore. Tested on a U2311H and 2011 MBP. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593844914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuerg87yerg879e0rg9erugjer Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 If you connect an external display and close the lid, it doesn't sleep the notebook anymore. Tested on a U2311H and 2011 MBP. i noticed that as well last night, kudos to apple for addressing that (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593844972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I installed DP2 on my MacBook and I can't find the "Battery" tab that was in DP1's System Profiler: With DP1, there was a "Battery" tab to the right of "Memory" on my MacBook. Now it's either been moved or removed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593844992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Actually I believe it was introduced in Snow Leopard. I distinctly remember not having that feature in Leopard while my co-worker on SL had it. After I got my new laptop, it showed up. Okay that's odd, because the rest of us did have the feature on Mac OS X Leopard. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593845580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I downloaded it last night but didn't have time to install it yet. Can this release be installed from scratch? Oh and the new iCal :x Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593845732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
celticpride678 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 If you connect an external display and close the lid, it doesn't sleep the notebook anymore. Tested on a U2311H and 2011 MBP. While I see the usefulness of that, I wish it would be customizable. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593845740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuerg87yerg879e0rg9erugjer Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 While I see the usefulness of that, I wish it would be customizable. how so? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593845756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I downloaded it last night but didn't have time to install it yet. Can this release be installed from scratch? You have to extract the DMG from the Installer package contents and restore it a USB-stick, SDHC card, DVD or whatever. I'm trying it as we speak. Last time around I really did get a good look at Mac OS X Lion performance-wise because I did an upgrade from Mac OS X Snow Leopard. :/ Edit: Yup, the DMG is bootable once you restore it to another drive. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/947186-mac-os-x-lion-discussion/page/47/#findComment-593845816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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