GayWolf Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 For the $99 fee you are able to submit as many paid apps as you want, and 5 free apps (per year). This is because running the certification tests and managing the system costs money to run. With the 70:30 revenue split on paid apps, they cover their own costs for certification, whereas free apps still cost money to test and certificate, without any return to MS or the developer, hence, they're limited. Running the system costs money. Interestingly enough Google charges only a $25 registration fee. And we all know that Google workers are better payed than the Indian labor force from Microsoft. Something just doesn't add up. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/953074-windows-7-phone-port/page/2/#findComment-593379948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Johnny Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Interestingly enough Google charges only a $25 registration fee. And we all know that Google workers are better payed than the Indian labor force from Microsoft. Something just doesn't add up. Microsoft's application testers are not working in India - I actually had a conversation with one whilst he was testing my application (as was the nature of my application, communication plays a big part in it). Perfectly normal USA chap. And Google don't really have a proper certification process do they? They certianly don't have anything as stringent and as through as Microsoft's system, so they don't need to be paying teh humanz for their time reviewing the apps :laugh: <img> Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/953074-windows-7-phone-port/page/2/#findComment-593379970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 The point is that on the majority of Android phones, you can install non market applications, which is not possible on WP7 or the iPhone. In general terms, the OEM controls the experience, rather than the user. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/953074-windows-7-phone-port/page/2/#findComment-593379974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GayWolf Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Microsoft's application testers are not working in India - I actually had a conversation with one whilst he was testing my application (as was the nature of my application, communication plays a big part in it). Perfectly normal USA chap. Oh really? Was that Ron from down the street you spoke to? :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/953074-windows-7-phone-port/page/2/#findComment-593379988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Johnny Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 The point is that on the majority of Android phones, you can install non market applications, which is not possible on WP7 or the iPhone. In general terms, the OEM controls the experience, rather than the user. Which is one of the "feautres" of Windows Phone 7's environment I guess - Microsoft can ensure a consistent and stable environment for the phone by controlling access to everything. General every day users will love this. Well, they won't be aware of it, but it should ensure their experience is smooth, crash-free and have a decent level of quality. Power users may not be as great a fan of this as everyone else, and it's upto them to choose ultimately. For everyone else, WP7's system should work fine. I'm a power user, I like writing my own apps and tweaking the sweet muffins out of everything, but I'm happy with how Microsoft handle it for now. Not everyone's cup of tea though :p <img> Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/953074-windows-7-phone-port/page/2/#findComment-593380004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheckOne Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Interestingly enough Google charges only a $25 registration fee. And we all know that Google workers are better payed than the Indian labor force from Microsoft. Something just doesn't add up. Um... Microsoft has a very large US workforce... Not to nit pick, but you don't seem too interested in accurate or truthful interpretations of things... Which is one of the "feautres" of Windows Phone 7's environment I guess - Microsoft can ensure a consistent and stable environment for the phone by controlling access to everything. General every day users will love this. Well, they won't be aware of it, but it should ensure their experience is smooth, crash-free and have a decent level of quality. Power users may not be as great a fan of this as everyone else, and it's upto them to choose ultimately. For everyone else, WP7's system should work fine. I'm a power user, I like writing my own apps and tweaking the sweet muffins out of everything, but I'm happy with how Microsoft handle it for now. Not everyone's cup of tea though :p <img> I agree. I think WP7 positioned itself to make as many people happy as possible. And with the apps you can get, if it doesn't do something, get an app (Or write one). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/953074-windows-7-phone-port/page/2/#findComment-593380020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GayWolf Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Um... Microsoft has a very large US workforce... Not to nit pick, but you don't seem too interested in accurate or truthful interpretations of things... Maybe you should first do a little bit of research? "We have built a great foundation in India. With 5000+ employees, we are one of the company's fastest growing businesses and now the second-largest employee base for Microsoft. We are also the only area outside of the US to have the complete presence of the Microsoft product lifecycle represented, spanning Research and Development through to support services." http://careers.microsoft.com/careers/en/in/home.aspx Not to mention the outsourcing to other companies. Microsoft invests strongly in India, it gets them cheap workforce. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/953074-windows-7-phone-port/page/2/#findComment-593380062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 the bottom line is wp7 will not be ported and as a matter a fact there will not be custom roms for it either. it's like the iphone, the most that will happen is limited custom themes for the tiles. after hearing about the sd card becoming part of the phone you couldn't pay me to use it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/953074-windows-7-phone-port/page/2/#findComment-593380090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Charming Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Maybe you should first do a little bit of research? "We have built a great foundation in India. With 5000+ employees, we are one of the company's fastest growing businesses and now the second-largest employee base for Microsoft. We are also the only area outside of the US to have the complete presence of the Microsoft product lifecycle represented, spanning Research and Development through to support services." http://careers.micro...en/in/home.aspx Not to mention the outsourcing to other companies. Microsoft invests strongly in India, it gets them cheap workforce. Microsoft employ over 89,000 people globally. Maybe you should do a bit of research, or some simple maths - 5000 employees in India is not the 'bulk' of the development or support workforce. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/953074-windows-7-phone-port/page/2/#findComment-593380860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Lyons10 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Maybe you should first do a little bit of research? "We have built a great foundation in India. With 5000+ employees, we are one of the company's fastest growing businesses and now the second-largest employee base for Microsoft. We are also the only area outside of the US to have the complete presence of the Microsoft product lifecycle represented, spanning Research and Development through to support services." http://careers.microsoft.com/careers/en/in/home.aspx Not to mention the outsourcing to other companies. Microsoft invests strongly in India, it gets them cheap workforce. Just because they *HAVE* a workforce outside of the US does not mean that they do not have a large US workforce. As of last year, Microsoft had around 80% of their workforce in the states. Though I always appreciate someone picking a snippet that vaguely supports their statement to try to prove themselves right. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/953074-windows-7-phone-port/page/2/#findComment-593388498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluberti Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Actually, it's back up over 90,000 again, for what it's worth. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/953074-windows-7-phone-port/page/2/#findComment-593394812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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