Mike Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 ^ Opera does have tabs in the title bar... As for the status bar, turn it off if you dont want it :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593414768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Yeah but opera does make good use of the statusbar, its not useless like it was in firefox/ie(basically only used for extension icons in firefox, which are now encouraged to be placed in the toolbar) Opera puts the panel button there which gives you access to bookmarks/history/downloads and all that, opere link and unite controls, displays urls when you mouse over them (like firefox 4 now does in the addressbar) and the handy view box. I don't really think its bulky, but it could be more streamlined, for example stop/reload/go in the addressbar like firefox would be nice, and remove buttons very few people use by default like fastforward and wand. Its only a few pixels taller vertically then chrome (default setup, no bookmarks bar) while exposing more functionality. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593414772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Johnny Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 You can move the tabs into the title bar - or inline with the Opera button as it were...(I much prefer it that way) Copy this into your address bar, and change the value from 20, to something like 10, and then make sure you save it, and then restart. Simples (: opera:config#UserPrefs|ChromeIntegrationdragArea <img> Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593414780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis W. Veteran Posted November 22, 2010 Veteran Share Posted November 22, 2010 IE doesn't group by domain, it groups by sites opened from. so if I open a a link in a new tab on neowin, those tabs will have the same color, no matter where that other links goes. Ah, I stand corrected. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593414802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Does the status bar now "float" over content like it does in Chrome, or does it still waste several vertical pixels by having its own dedicated area? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593414810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Veteran Posted November 22, 2010 Veteran Share Posted November 22, 2010 Tab stacking looks interesting. I'm going to download the beta and have a play. It might be quite useful for when I have a lot of tabs open, due to carrying out research (which is very frequent, for me). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593414834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malisk Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 The new feature isn't hardware acceleration... but something quite neat. Got this from one of the comments on Choose Opera. Try pinning tabs. Also try dragging a tab over another one. 'Stacking' tabs sounds like a neat idea to group your tabs together. I think something similar is in Firefox 4 but this is a simpler way to accomplish the task. It should look like this: Nice! This is almost how I wished Firefox's new tab manager should work when I posted on MozillaZine recently. It makes it more like a part of the browser than a bolted on feature. The best thing is that pinned tabs can't be closed by accident. That's why I use it when I writer long posts or similar. I like that too! I really dislike how Chrome's pinned tabs can be Ctrl+W'ed away, which I often do by mistake since I'm so used to keeping things tidy. :s All this, and Extensions might turn me from Chrome for a while. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593414838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagisan Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Tab stacking looks interesting. I'm going to download the beta and have a play. It might be quite useful for when I have a lot of tabs open, due to carrying out research (which is very frequent, for me). Currently it is best when you are going to leave a few similar tabs open for awhile because you have to manually stack the tabs, but once they automate some things (such as stacking tabs based on domain or those opened from a specific tab or however they do it) then it will be very useful. One major problem with stacked tabs though is they have major issues with single-key shortcuts. In Opera, I use 1 to go to the previous tab and 2 to go to the next tab. It makes jumping through side-by-side tabs really quick, but it doesn't play well with stacked tabs yet.....it moves the stacked tab around, makes it disappear and reappear, and do all kinds of other crazy stuff. But, those are all bugs that will hopefully be fixed before final. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593414852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Has anyone else come across a possible glitch that involves tabs being "lost?" For example, I had set up a stack with 5-6 technology-themed sites. I ended up closing all but one of them, and now that last remaining tab is still active, as in I can Ctrl+Tab to it, but it's not actually on the tab bar anymore. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593414864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Does the status bar now "float" over content like it does in Chrome, or does it still waste several vertical pixels by having its own dedicated area? I prefer having a true status bar. I find Chrome's implementation rather ugly looking. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593414876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 So, that means the status bar now no longer takes pixels away from the content, instead just floating over it? I hope so. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593414882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Can someone give me a source where you got this from? It wasn't posted officially on the Opera website and google doesn't give much either. The official beta is supposed to be released tomorrow. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593414898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis W. Veteran Posted November 22, 2010 Veteran Share Posted November 22, 2010 So, that means the status bar now no longer takes pixels away from the content, instead just floating over it? I hope so. There is still a static statusbar and I don't see that changing anytime soon given the amount of stuff Opera puts down there. You can hide it and install an extension that draws a statusbar on the page itself, but it doesn't work with all sites (such as this forum). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593414908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagisan Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Has anyone else come across a possible glitch that involves tabs being "lost?" For example, I had set up a stack with 5-6 technology-themed sites. I ended up closing all but one of them, and now that last remaining tab is still active, as in I can Ctrl+Tab to it, but it's not actually on the tab bar anymore. Likely a bug similar to using single-key shortcuts to navigate through stacked tabs (it causes the entire stack to disappear and reappear and do all kinds of other crap). So, that means the status bar now no longer takes pixels away from the content, instead just floating over it? I hope so. No, he is saying he prefers Opera's implementation, which is still the same as always, a dedicated status bar. I agree with him, I do not like the status bar popping up and down at the bottom when I hover over links, even if it doesn't shrink the page to fit in when it does it, I would rather it stay there and simply show the normal status bar text when it needs to. Can someone give me a source where you got this from? It wasn't posted officially on the Opera website and google doesn't give much either. The official beta is supposed to be released tomorrow. The only source is that it is available for download on Opera's FTP. They have been known for posting builds on their FTP before releasing information about them though, it hasn't been officially released but unless theres a major showstopper bug it will most likely be the same as tomorrows official beta release. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593414910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted November 22, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted November 22, 2010 Giving it another go, I really don't like how the right click menu isn't Windows native yet :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593414938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Giving it another go, I really don't like how the right click menu isn't Windows native yet :( Yeah I've been requesting this for ages Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593414940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted November 22, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted November 22, 2010 The new feature isn't hardware acceleration... but something quite neat. Got this from one of the comments on Choose Opera. Try pinning tabs. Also try dragging a tab over another one. 'Stacking' tabs sounds like a neat idea to group your tabs together. I think something similar is in Firefox 4 but this is a simpler way to accomplish the task. It should look like this: How did you change the top button to have no menu text, and also the tab padding from the menu button? Thanks Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593414962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 How did you change the top button to have no menu text, and also the tab padding from the menu button? Thanks Right click it > customize > appearence and select images only. And for padding go to opera:config and search chrome. Change the number in chromeintegration area to like 17-18 (any lower will start putting them next to the opera button instead of below) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593414972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Can someone give me a source where you got this from? It wasn't posted officially on the Opera website and google doesn't give much either. The official beta is supposed to be released tomorrow. No source because it's not official yet, it'll probably be official at 9am tomorrow. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593414994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted November 22, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted November 22, 2010 Can someone give me a source where you got this from? It wasn't posted officially on the Opera website and google doesn't give much either. The official beta is supposed to be released tomorrow. Consider it a chance to have an article about it on Neowin before anybody else. As to the source, just write 'An anonymous Neowinian found the following on the Opera ftp server:' :shifty: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593414998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 So, that means the status bar now no longer takes pixels away from the content, instead just floating over it? I hope so. There are a screen shots on the first page clearly showing a dedicated status bar that's always visible. I don't understand your confusion. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593415008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Johnny Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Giving it another go, I really don't like how the right click menu isn't Windows native yet :( It's a form of native Windows context menu (or, more accurately, it was styled after one). The last program I remember seeing using it was that wasn't Opera would be Windows Live Messenger (pre-2011 builds). I actually much prefer the one they're using, it saves more vertical space and has better contrast, but it's obviously a matter of taste. <img> Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593415014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I really don't understand the gripes about the context menu. maybe it doesn't look exactly like the windows one. but it's not slower, and it's not like you really notice, unless you're looking for "faults" Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593415020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Personally I just think its ugly. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593415024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted November 22, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted November 22, 2010 I really don't understand the gripes about the context menu. maybe it doesn't look exactly like the windows one. but it's not slower, and it's not like you really notice, unless you're looking for "faults" It uses bright blue highlighting which annoys me, compared to the aero right click menu highlight it's far uglier. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/955444-opera-1100-beta-1/page/3/#findComment-593415026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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