christb Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Ardin is regarded as leftist as well as feminist. She had been actively involved in helping out Assange on his tour. Some have suggested she may be working with the CIA but it has been pointed out that she was supportive of Wikileaks in the past and was helping Assange and was on the left after all. This is all true. However, some claim that this makes Ardin the perfect choice to lay a sex trap. Is there any evidence that she might be involved with U.S. intelligence. There is some but it is hardly conclusive. Ardin has been to Cuba and while there had ties to US financed anti=-Castro groups. She worked with one group called the Ladies in White a feminist anti-Castro group. The leader of the group is reportedly connected to the CIA. She consequently wrote anti-Castro articles for a Swedish publication. The Ladies in White is partially funded by the US. government and also counts among its supporters Luis Posada Carriles a CIA agent convicted of terrorist attacks that killed hundreds of people. Of course many leftist both in Sweden and the U.S. work in CIA sponsored groups knowingly or unknowingly. They care more about their specific cause than U.S. imperial aims. After all many lefitsts support the Afghan war. I imagine liberal feminists would because they would see the war as liberating Afghan women. The left nowadays often encompasses specific issues with no broader ideology of intending to promote socialism or fight against imperialism. It may very well be that being upset with Assange's behavior she simply decided conveniently that her feminist aims were more important than Wikileaks and the aims of that organisation. She seems to have had no compunction about making things difficult for Wikileaks by laying charges against the icon of the organization. Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfirth Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 If they wanted to frame him they would come up with something a little more harsh than "sex by surprise". You know. Like actual rape. If he was being framed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted December 9, 2010 Supervisor Share Posted December 9, 2010 Eh, at least Assange has taste. That's really all I have to say, since I can't see this going anywhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibs Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 The other woman who claimed Assange "raped" her was named Sophie Wsomething, forgot, but some 4channer(s) basically figured out their names, partial addresses and phone numbers...was a huge thread about it a few hours ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted December 9, 2010 Supervisor Share Posted December 9, 2010 The other woman who claimed Assange "raped" her was named Sophie Wsomething, forgot, but some 4channer(s) basically figured out their names, partial addresses and phone numbers...was a huge thread about it a few hours ago. Google brings back "Sofia Wilen." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibs Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Google brings back "Sofia Wilen." Yeh thats the one. Was close :rofl: Oddly enough under the Swedish law the penalty for what Assange is convicted of doing..."sex without a condom" basically...is $715 and, as far as I can tell, no jail time. But yet the Swedes have an arrest warrant, asked interpol to issue a red notice against Assange, and are trying to get the UK to extradite him to Sweden. All this over a $715 penalty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christb Posted December 9, 2010 Author Share Posted December 9, 2010 Yeh thats the one. Was close :rofl: . All this over a $715 penalty? this brings the reasonable doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2xSilverKnight Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 If they wanted to frame him they would come up with something a little more harsh than "sex by surprise". You know. Like actual rape. If he was being framed. what do you think was reported for the past few months ?? All news outlets were reporting rape charges which was completly untrue. And she was someone he trusted since she was there since the beggining. Intelligence agencies are very good at infiltrating organizations and companies. get a clue ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COKid Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Yeh thats the one. Was close :rofl: Oddly enough under the Swedish law the penalty for what Assange is convicted of doing..."sex without a condom" basically...is $715 and, as far as I can tell, no jail time. But yet the Swedes have an arrest warrant, asked interpol to issue a red notice against Assange, and are trying to get the UK to extradite him to Sweden. All this over a $715 penalty? Well then why doesn't he just plead guilty and pay the fine? Why fight extradition? What is the little weasel afraid of? Or does he just like all the attention? Sorry, there must be more to this than we know. Julian's actions do not add up. I don't know, maybe he thinks he's living out a spy novel in real life. I hope they give him a psych test. Just seems like a pananoid (ooh, a poison pill :laugh:) crackpot to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibs Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Well then why doesn't he just plead guilty and pay the fine? Why fight extradition? What is the little weasel afraid of? Or does he just like all the attention? Sorry, there must be more to this than we know. Julian's actions do not add up. I don't know, maybe he thinks he's living out a spy novel in real life. I hope they give him a psych test. Just seems like a pananoid (ooh, a poison pill :laugh:) crackpot to me. He turned himself into the British police, like he said he would? Please explain me something, if I got a speeding ticket in America for say $715 (would be one hell of a ticket) and then I went back to, say, the UK...you really think the US will put out an international notice seeking my arrest and even try to get me extradited? I'm pretty sure if the Swedes were only looking for him to pay a penalty, there wouldn't be a red notice out on him. I mean first they claim it was rape, then one of the women "withdraws her complaint" and then they claim it was "sex by surprise." And the timing of it isn't coincidental at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macrosslover Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 He turned himself into the British police, like he said he would? Please explain me something, if I got a speeding ticket in America for say $715 (would be one hell of a ticket) and then I went back to, say, the UK...you really think the US will put out an international notice seeking my arrest and even try to get me extradited? I'm pretty sure if the Swedes were only looking for him to pay a penalty, there wouldn't be a red notice out on him. I mean first they claim it was rape, then one of the women "withdraws her complaint" and then they claim it was "sex by surprise." And the timing of it isn't coincidental at all. not saying one side is true or not, but you can't really compare a speeding ticket to an alleged act of sexual misconduct and then try to minimize the act to simply the legal dollar value of it. IF somebody has commited a sexual act against any person you don't really want that person roaming free and pretty much doing whatever, until questions about the case are resolved, just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudtrooper Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 not saying one side is true or not, but you can't really compare a speeding ticket to an alleged act of sexual misconduct and then try to minimize the act to simply the legal dollar value of it. IF somebody has commited a sexual act against any person you don't really want that person roaming free and pretty much doing whatever, until questions about the case are resolved, just saying. Last time i checked, you're innocent until proven guilty. just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Majesticmerc MVC Posted December 9, 2010 MVC Share Posted December 9, 2010 I'd hit it. with a stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 not saying one side is true or not, but you can't really compare a speeding ticket to an alleged act of sexual misconduct and then try to minimize the act to simply the legal dollar value of it. IF somebody has commited a sexual act against any person you don't really want that person roaming free and pretty much doing whatever, until questions about the case are resolved, just saying. If the maximum fine is $715 evidently the Swedish authorities don't consider it to be a crime serious enough to get locked up over, besides there is no way to prove the condom was deliberately split in the first place. Which further begs the question why go to Interpol over what is in all respects a minor offence (not that I wish to belittle the sufferers of real crime of course, but any crime that doesn't have jail time attached to it can be considered a minor offence in my opinion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted December 10, 2010 Member Share Posted December 10, 2010 Even if she is from the CIA, he should have been ready for an attack from that direction. He should have known the US was not going to set back and do nothing while he made a fool of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha Bloo Monkee Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Last time i checked, you're innocent until proven guilty. just saying. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Even if she is from the CIA, he should have been ready for an attack from that direction. He should have known the US was not going to set back and do nothing while he made a fool of them. Yep, but how the heck would anybody determine who isn't and who is a possible suspect for screwing them over? It's not easy to live your life in a constant state of paranoia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gian Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 It's always a female that will screw you... it's easy to say he should be ready but I doubt he would say no to her... :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curme Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Last time i checked, you're innocent until proven guilty. just saying. Are you talking about Assange or the female? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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