Steven P. Administrators Posted December 21, 2010 Administrators Share Posted December 21, 2010 From today on the updated forums, members will be able to rep posts in the technical areas of the forum. It works like this, a member posts a request for help and when someone posts the correct response, any member and the topic starter can vote the best answer by adding reputation. The post with the highest number of votes turns green so it's easily noticeable as the "best answer", like so: The result is that eventually, the members with the most reputation are also the most helpful. This will make MVC candidate voting also a much easier process ;) Currently the system is enabled in all sections of the Help & Discussion Center. That category will be moved up and I'll be adding the system to other tech areas of the forums, as well as setting the number of votes per day allowed to hand out per group. firey 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3ntury Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Nice idea, glad to see it back (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamminium Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I like this. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacon Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 As said above: Good idea. It adds some incentive to visit and help out at the tech part of the forums more. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrl Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Its a pretty great idea! Specially when the post turns green make things a lot easier! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted December 21, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted December 21, 2010 Excellent idea. This should encourage more members to post helpful responses. That being said, shouldn't the reputation points from earlier this year be erased, thus making sure everybody has the same basis to build his/her reputation on? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 It requires a bit of modification to the url.. but you can technically "Rep" any post in any forum.. may aswell just enable it for all.. Like, I just "Upranked" Neobonds post, even though there is no + button. Dark_ph0enix 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji@nBing Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Why not just enable it for all and for all posts instead of only one per thread? It makes no sense. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deactivated170812 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 This is also going to be useful for unregistered users passing by in search of a solution to a problem since finding a correct answer will be easier. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+John. Subscriber¹ Posted December 21, 2010 Subscriber¹ Share Posted December 21, 2010 Good idea! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hammond Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 People where crying for some reason because people were getting too many karma votes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleNeutrino Veteran Posted December 21, 2010 Veteran Share Posted December 21, 2010 nifty Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_ph0enix Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 It requires a bit of modification to the url.. but you can technically "Rep" any post in any forum.. may aswell just enable it for all.. Like, I just "Upranked" Neobonds post, even though there is no + button. Same here - I was just able to "uprank" a post someone made about jailbreaking the Kindle3, over in my thread in the Members Review section. Edit -> I was able to take that rating "off" Neobond, and give it to firey instead. Definitely looks like something that could be problematic / prone to abuse. firey and Brian 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 yea, I don't know how to get the "Rating" to be more than 1... however if it is possible.. there is the chance that could in theory make a bot of some sort to just pile on the ratings. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_ph0enix Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 yea, I don't know how to get the "Rating" to be more than 1... however if it is possible.. there is the chance that could in theory make a bot of some sort to just pile on the ratings. Thanks for the Green - Feel I oughta return the favour ;) Like you said - at the moment, it's more fun than anything, but can you imagine in one of the more "explosive" threads, say one of the politics threads? Get a group of people all to vote for the same post? Could definitely be abused. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Thanks for the Green - Feel I oughta return the favour ;) Like you said - at the moment, it's more fun than anything, but can you imagine in one of the more "explosive" threads, say one of the politics threads? Get a group of people all to vote for the same post? Could definitely be abused. From what it looks like... (if you notice in the url) theres the: &secure_key parameter, Im thinking it's unique to each user.. and that's what prevents multiple rep gains, however.. each time someone is upranked.. they do get rep (I am at 3 rep) So yea, along with the "Fun Part" two people could just sit an uprank each other back and forth to get a tonne of reputation.. thus throwing off votes, and all that.. Dark_ph0enix 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted December 21, 2010 Author Administrators Share Posted December 21, 2010 Yeah this is the reason it was disabled last time.. People abuse it. We'll have to look into this bug though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_ph0enix Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 From what it looks like... (if you notice in the url) theres the: &secure_key parameter, Im thinking it's unique to each user.. and that's what prevents multiple rep gains, however.. each time someone is upranked.. they do get rep (I am at 3 rep) So yea, along with the "Fun Part" two people could just sit an uprank each other back and forth to get a tonne of reputation.. thus throwing off votes, and all that.. Aye - I noticed the increase in my own Rep when I went into my profile. I think you can only vote once per thread - I tried to re-vote for the post of yours I'd already re-upped, but though it went through, it didn't seem to change it. Like you said - I wonder what's (at the moment) to stop people just voting for each other. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leakAddict Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 If you put together a system of max reps per user per day, and let the mods make sure that it isn't being abused, I don't see why it can't be used everywhere... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_ph0enix Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Yeah this is the reason it was disabled last time.. People abuse it. We'll have to look into this bug though. If you put together a system of max reps per user per day, and let the mods make sure that it isn't being abused, I don't see why it can't be used everywhere... What if I created a thread, for example, saying Operating System A is better than Operating System B. Then, if every user can dish out 5 Reps per day, managed to get 10 people to up rep the original post? Granted, with a forum this big there are enough people to balance it out. But, it could work out the other way - say if someone goes though my Kindle thread, for example, and down reps everyone, because theyr'e a Nook user? Sounds stupid, but I can see it happening. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
treemonster Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 although this seems to be a good idea for the help sections, i've already noticed people trying to get rep by adding absolutely any advice to threads in the hardware section. you'd think more posts would be good, but not when they are wrong or harmful. i also seem to be the only one repping posts in the hardware hangout as of right now. looks like people want to get repped but don't want to rep others. as it is there have been only two posts in a single thread i've found to be helpful enough to up rep. the first reply in that thread was totally wrong and if the Op had acted on it he would have had two somewhat expensive videos card which would refuse to work with each other in the way he was asking about and that post said they would. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leakAddict Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 What if I created a thread, for example, saying Operating System A is better than Operating System B. Then, if every user can dish out 5 Reps per day, managed to get 10 people to up rep the original post? Granted, with a forum this big there are enough people to balance it out. But, it could work out the other way - say if someone goes though my Kindle thread, for example, and down reps everyone, because theyr'e a Nook user? Sounds stupid, but I can see it happening. Then I would say that use of the report button may be necessary. Also, the mods would be able to detect such activity (I'm guessing?) and make sure to warn or ban the offender. I'm thinking something like 5 to 10 reps per 24 hours, and you need to rep 10 to 15 different people before you can rep the same person again. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I think yea, if it is done right, it can be really benneficial, however there are lots of areas for it to be abused, and I wouldn't be surprised if it does. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee G. Veteran Posted December 21, 2010 Veteran Share Posted December 21, 2010 Excellent idea. This should encourage more members to post helpful responses. That being said, shouldn't the reputation points from earlier this year be erased, thus making sure everybody has the same basis to build his/her reputation on? I think it is an excellent idea too. I was thinking the same thing last night, that the reputation points from earlier this year should be erased. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrooksuk Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I quite like the idea! What happens when there are two or more posts with the same rep? Are they classed as equal thus no definitive useful post? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/962454-rep-system-enabled-with-a-difference/#findComment-593514976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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