windows95isg8 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I can?t remember when I picked up my ps3, had it years and it still is the most used and best paid for hardware I have ever had, I do get hacking would be nice as yer I could get free games, but I don?t wana mess with it. The system is amazing and the games I get are well worth the cash for the amount of time you play them. As for Sony being able to patch it, I?m sure there are ways they could. But yer sure there will be a hack to get around it again, there always is. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593584122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Nope, they can control activations on their end and can disable your account tied to your PS3 remotely. And for anyone saying it would go to court - http://uk.gamespot.c...ossed-by-judge/ Also rajputwarrior if you don't care about your PSN account that's fine, but I therefore don't know why you care if other people do if you don't even care about your own. i was more commenting towards what happens to your xbox account if you have modded your console cause that is what happens. what is to happen on a ps3 no one knows yet and who really knows (until they do it) what sony can actually do. and i never said i didn't care about my account, more of how pathetic it is how people obsess over trophies and achievements... this is what I thing will happen. Right now some games on PSP you have to register to play online (the latest socom is the example to that). That is what I thing will happen. Me personally, if sony starts banning consoles all they are doing, not intentionally, is promoting people pirating because no one is going to want to buy a game they can't update or play online. So people will just be "eff it, i'll just download it". Not everyone can just go out and buy a new ps3 just like that. Imagine if apple banned jailbreakers from accessing the app store? My phone is jailbroken but i still buy all my games and apps from apple's app store. Sony can honestly make this worse for themselves if they go on a massive band. I think they need to admit defeat and work around it, not lay down the ban hammer. Personally I will still buy content form PSN and games from wherever with my jailbroken ps3 no problem, but if they ban me... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593584910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted January 12, 2011 Author Subscriber² Share Posted January 12, 2011 i was more commenting towards what happens to your xbox account if you have modded your console cause that is what happens. what is to happen on a ps3 no one knows yet and who really knows (until they do it) what sony can actually do. and i never said i didn't care about my account, more of how pathetic it is how people obsess over trophies and achievements... this is what I thing will happen. Right now some games on PSP you have to register to play online (the latest socom is the example to that). That is what I thing will happen. Me personally, if sony starts banning consoles all they are doing, not intentionally, is promoting people pirating because no one is going to want to buy a game they can't update or play online. So people will just be "eff it, i'll just download it". Not everyone can just go out and buy a new ps3 just like that. Imagine if apple banned jailbreakers from accessing the app store? My phone is jailbroken but i still buy all my games and apps from apple's app store. Sony can honestly make this worse for themselves if they go on a massive band. I think they need to admit defeat and work around it, not lay down the ban hammer. Personally I will still buy content form PSN and games from wherever with my jailbroken ps3 no problem, but if they ban me... Just doesn't work that way, if you want to use PSN without banning potential you need to be running an official unmodified Sony firmware. That's how it's been since day 1, nothing has changed, so why expect different now? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593585034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Sony launches legal action against PlayStation hackers BBC News Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593585104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Just doesn't work that way, if you want to use PSN without banning potential you need to be running an official unmodified Sony firmware. That's how it's been since day 1, nothing has changed, so why expect different now? i know that, and everyone who jailbreaks their ps3 knows that (or should...) it's just that i think sony could approach differently then just laying down the ban hammer on everyone who did it. I think their is a better way to approach this, all I am saying. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593585108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted January 12, 2011 Author Subscriber² Share Posted January 12, 2011 i know that, and everyone who jailbreaks their ps3 knows that (or should...) it's just that i think sony could approach differently then just laying down the ban hammer on everyone who did it. I think their is a better way to approach this, all I am saying. Fair enough. I don't see how though, you can't expect them to send you an email asking if you're using homebrew or pirating games. Look how things are on the net, people blatantly pirating games but they'll argue till their head explodes they don't/it's only for a demo/it's a backup etc. Best you'll get is a console only ban like MS do it, worse case scenario is account/console ban. How would you approach it if you were Sony? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593585114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hammond Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Ban PSN account and blacklist the console from playing online, so you can either download games as "demos" or you can buy them and play on an unmodded console. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593585130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noveed Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Sony can Possibly disable PS3s. Having said that I am sure one could simple not go on PSN ... With new customer firmware I have a feeling some wiseguy may find a way around this also. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593585510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Fair enough. I don't see how though, you can't expect them to send you an email asking if you're using homebrew or pirating games. Look how things are on the net, people blatantly pirating games but they'll argue till their head explodes they don't/it's only for a demo/it's a backup etc. Best you'll get is a console only ban like MS do it, worse case scenario is account/console ban. How would you approach it if you were Sony? i know that's the thing. I think approaching it like they approach PC piracy would bea way. want to play the game online? need to buy it. It works and it does get a lot of people to buy the games. and piracy doesn't absolutely kill sales, times evolve and you have to approach things differently. their are still a ton of recent PC games that sell like hot cakes even though you can get them for free if you really wanted. All in all, the number of people who will do this compared to the number of people who won't is pretty big. It's not like the wii is suffering much in terms of sales and that is just as easy to mod for piracy. Good games will sell regardless, it's not the average and **** games that will hurt the most from this. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593585694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
still1 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Will windows install on ps3? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593585724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLiMiT06 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Was there not a law that was passed that allowed Jailbreaking devices and "backing up" media without any legal action? This was for the US only I think... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593585750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoTrunks Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Was there not a law that was passed that allowed Jailbreaking devices and "backing up" media without any legal action? This was for the US only I think... Even if users cannot be prosecuted for tinkering with consoles, they still have to abide by Sony's TOS if they want access to PSN. Sony could ban those modding their consoles without any legal trouble. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593585766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
etempest Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I also think Sony will find way to detect hacks (and ban / block PSN access) according, while changing all the the internal encryption keys on newer hardware. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593585778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 All this news will affect me in a bad way I see.... And all I wanted was to pay for games and play them on my ps3.... Damn you people who steal the ****. People need to learn to stop actions that will affect many in a more negative way than the action itself does good for a few. I just don't see this ending well for the honest consumer/customer. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593585786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeEsquire Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Was there not a law that was passed that allowed Jailbreaking devices and "backing up" media without any legal action? This was for the US only I think... The DCMA exception only applies to jailbreaking phones and does nothing to prevent Sony from saying you breached your PSN contract and then banning you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593585880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argi Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Sony's under no obligation to continue to provide PSN services if your console is modified just as Microsoft isn't with Xbox Live. I don't think they'd dare remotely brick consoles for offline use, though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593585908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakumo Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Microsoft embraced the fact that people were hacking the kinect to work with PCs. Not quite the same I'm well aware, but look what happened there... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593585938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argi Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Microsoft embraced the fact that people were hacking the kinect to work with PCs. Not quite the same I'm well aware, but look what happened there... And any hacking with your 360 will be swiftly followed by a perma-ban on Xbox Live. Apples and oranges. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593585944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeEsquire Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Microsoft embraced the fact that people were hacking the kinect to work with PCs. Not quite the same I'm well aware, but look what happened there... If by "embrace" you mean decided not to sue... Also, that is completely different because MS does not lose a single software sale because of a hacked Kinect and actually gains a hardware sale. Hacking the PS3 will lead to decreased software sales. Look at MS' approach to hacked Xbox360s. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593586048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex566 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Sony were going to ban my account and console for been a victim of fraud, so I doubt they would have problems doing it on hacked consoles. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593586060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melfster Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 If by "embrace" you mean decided not to sue... Also, that is completely different because MS does not lose a single software sale because of a hacked Kinect and actually gains a hardware sale. Hacking the PS3 will lead to decreased software sales. Look at MS' approach to hacked Xbox360s. Actually Microsoft has a potential to lose lot of revenue because of the hacking that is going on. Microsoft could add features to it's OS that can now be added to other OS s' You really can't say what impact this will have on Microsoft it conceivable be worse then Sony hack. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593586286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unrealistic Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I guess this kind of rage and paranoia always runs high with likely pirates, or those that annoyed at the prospects of a company trying to protect their products/shareholders they must take it out on anonymous people online? Kind of ironic when you refused to take your xbox 360 online because it was modded and you were pirating games on it, all the while pretending that you were buying the games. :) (I don't endorse piracy, just stating the irony of your accusations to that guy.) I agree with you on the killswitch though. It doesn't make sense, especially if the modders have full access to the console. I don't see how a "killswitch" could not be removed, ala JTAG. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593586368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeEsquire Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Actually Microsoft has a potential to lose lot of revenue because of the hacking that is going on. Microsoft could add features to it's OS that can now be added to other OS s' You really can't say what impact this will have on Microsoft it conceivable be worse then Sony hack. How would they lose revenue...? Like, someone buys a Kinect, hacks it to work on his computer and then stops playing Xbox360 games...? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593588250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Spork) Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 yea sony is butthurt the ps3 was crack .. i really fail to see how network update will "fix" this ? i would think it would be pretty simple to recrack it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593588310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbandonedTrolley Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 yea sony is butthurt the ps3 was crack .. i really fail to see how network update will "fix" this ? i would think it would be pretty simple to recrack it Of course they are going to be hurt/upset it has been cracked, it's their product and piracy will mean loss of revenue. No doubt they will do all they can do to try and protect their profits. I do think they won't go as far as the bricking of consoles, but certainly they will remove PSN access if possible. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/966314-sony-responds-to-ps3-hacks/page/4/#findComment-593588316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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