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...but you haven't seen actual 360 footage. What makes you think it will look worse? Didn't BC2 look pretty much identical for both 360 and PS3?

I haven't played BC 2. I just think it's odd that no one shows game play for the 360. It's like they are hiding stuff. It's my opinion though. Eveything so far has been PC, and PS thats it. I just think its odd.

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I haven't played BC 2. I just think it's odd that no one shows game play for the 360. It's like they are hiding stuff. It's my opinion though. Eveything so far has been PC, and PS thats it. I just think its odd.

I think you're overreacting, for all you know they have some financial reason to debut some video on the PS3; no clue though. Regardless you will still buy it - you know it, and the PC version will trump both the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions. Just enjoy the game.

By the way I am getting it for Xbox 360 as I am on a MacBook Pro.

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Everyone knows the 360 is CoD land.

I'm sure M$ is 2secs from dumping their MW3 Ad Campaign bombardment on us.

There won't be any noticeable difference between the consoles, really.

So I wouldn't make a big deal out of not seeing anything.

This.

MW is generally affiliated with the 360, they get the map packs first, etc., so this is nothing more than that.

Just gaming politics.

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Originally, I planned only buying the PC version of BF3. Now, I might also get the X360 version. I'll mostly be busy with MW3 but my best friend plans on getting it because he doesn't have a gaming PC. It'd be nice to play the co-op campaign as well as MP whenever we get tired of MW3. Of course, I'll enjoy BF3 the most on PC just as I enjoyed BF2.

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Battlefield 3: Commander mode to reprise in PC version

Oh Snap! The lucky players of the PC version of Battlefield 3 might get the supreme pleasure of playing the game in Commander mode. Okay, we?ll give you a few seconds to pick your jaw up from the floor. Hot out of Gamescom 2011, the news is that the alpha testing phase of Battlefield 3 is yielding some important player features feedback for the DICE development team.

According to DICE designer Karl Magnus Troedsson, the alpha testing is producing some key feature nuggets for the development team to pursue. Just so we don?t get accused of putting words in his mouth or twisting the meaning of the statement he actually said, here is his statement: ?It?s been quite interesting actually, because we needed to load-test the backend. But we also got some really good feedback when it comes to actual features, and so on. The map that people got to play was the Rush map on Metro that we had showing [at E3]. Some of it we actually already reacted to. One of the key feedback we got, for instance, was that people wanted the comm roles back on PC. So that?s one thing that we actually have added. It?s a PC specific feature, but it?s the PC community that has asked for it.? Comm roles back on PC! Wow! I am already seeing images of cheering Battlefield 3 fans as I type this. Cyber high fives all around.

Why all the jubiliation? Just in case you didn?t play Battlefield 2, the Commander was one of the most engaging roles in that installment. It allows a player to direct his units from a location off the battlefield. You got to deploy UAV sweeps, artillery strikes, support units, and others. This role packs a lot of high level strategy into an otherwise tactical level game.

Source: Game Bandits

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Curious since I did not play BF2 and will be playing BF3 on the Xbox 360 but how is the "Commander" chosen?

In BF2 before the match started, people could "apply" for Commander. I believe it would go to the person with the highest ranking. Either that or the person with the most commander experience. It was one or the other. BUT, other players could vote that person down right when they applied. It sounds like it could potentially be disastrous giving people that level of control, but it really somehow always worked. The commander also could at any time get nominated to get kicked during the match. So if somehow someone was in the commander position and did not take it seriously, and / or just plain sucked, during the match they could get voted out by the majority.

Putting it in the other players hands really meant the players who were commander were doing a good job and/or took it serious. A good commander really makes a big difference. I always left being commander to people who were good at it. I did it once or twice, and was not bad by any means, but there are definitely people who just "get it" and do a really good job at being one.

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DirtyLarry Veteran

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That article isn't written very well. Sounds like the person is getting mixed up between Comma Rose and Commander...

This actually. I think they are just assuming because the comm rose are back, that automatically means the commander is back. I think this is some smaller gaming website trying to generate some traffic and nothing else.

I would definitely only take this with a grain of salt.

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In BF2 before the match started, people could "apply" for Commander. I believe it would go to the person with the highest ranking. Either that or the person with the most commander experience. It was one or the other. BUT, other players could vote that person down right when they applied. It sounds like it could potentially be disastrous giving people that level of control, but it really somehow always worked. The commander also could at any time get nominated to get kicked during the match. So if somehow someone was in the commander position and did not take it seriously, and / or just plain sucked, during the match they could get voted out by the majority.

Putting it in the other players hands really meant the players who were commander were doing a good job and/or took it serious. A good commander really makes a big difference. I always left being commander to people who were good at it. I did it once or twice, and was not bad by any means, but there are definitely people who just "get it" and do a really good job at being one.

I loved being commander. I treated it like an RTS and completely engrossed myself as commander.

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I ended up really enjoying the Commander role. I was hesitant at first.

A good Commander could literally single-handedly win the battle for you.

When you actually had squads that listened, that just translated into an easy win.

I found that having a competent commander drew players in even more to this core function of tactical warfare and would play their roles more.

I loved the chain of command com structure in bf2. Only squad leaders can request arty/uav/support from the commander. So no spammage over coms.

It's weird I enjoyed the role as much given the rts feel of it. (i hate rts)

I was pretty good at it though. Key for me was continuously scan the field. UAV's in areas where there would be a squad moving flanks or just heavy groups coming in for a sabotage run. I never really deployed UAV's for flags being taken (unless the board was clean after scan) I'd just zoom in and spot them manually.

Arty guns themselves were just as important for overtaken squads at flag points. Again, scanning and spotting.

I was never the type of comm that would sit out the whole fight micro-managing, most did though. I enjoyed pinpointing the opposing commander cause more times than not, he'd always be sitting along somewhere not moving. Sending in an arty on him or simply a knife in the back knocking him off his comms temporarily was really rewarding.

I played spec ops class so I'd set myself up for hindering the opposing commander by disabling his arty/uav. Then moving in on him :shiftyninja:

I reminiscence too much, lol.

So as much as I've enjoyed it, I really don't see them implementing this feature in BF3 at launch, if ever.

It would probably be patched in later on as paid DLC if there's enough fuss.

I do think the posted article simply misunderstood what was said. I thought they've pretty much stated multiple times that Commander was not going to be in game due to no one utilizing it in-game.

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I loved being commander. I treated it like an RTS and completely engrossed myself as commander.

I ended up really enjoying the Commander role. I was hesitant at first.

A good Commander could literally single-handedly win the battle for you.

When you actually had squads that listened, that just translated into an easy win.

I found that having a competent commander drew players in even more to this core function of tactical warfare and would play their roles more.

I loved the chain of command com structure in bf2. Only squad leaders can request arty/uav/support from the commander. So no spammage over coms.

It's weird I enjoyed the role as much given the rts feel of it. (i hate rts)I do think the posted article simply misunderstood what was said. I thought they've pretty much stated multiple times that Commander was not going to be in game due to no one utilizing it in-game.

And thankfully there were people like you who took it seriously. (Y)

As schizo says, a good commander with good squad leaders literally makes the difference.

It is honestly why BF2 is my favorite MP FPS of all time. When you were on a good team where the entire time was all on the same page, well there literally is no gaming experience quite like it. 32 players working together as one team. Really is incredibly kick ass when it all comes together.

For anyone who is interested, this is what the commander saw in BF2.

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I really do think the article is wrong though, as schizo also pointed out, I already thought it had pretty much been stated a full fledged commander role will not be happening.

For the commander to be effective, it means a decent amount of unselfish play,, so I honestly even wonder if the Commander role could even happen these days anyway. :iiam:

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Hi, so I pre-ordered BF3 from origin (If it was on steam I would have done it instantly), and was just wondering if a 6850 will run it @ 1440x900 in max settings (except for resolution of course :))

The CPU is a Phenom II X6 1090T.

If anyone from neowin who wants to add me on origin (for BF3 Beta) here is my ID: Rohanrao

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Yusuf M. Veteran

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That's awesome news! I enjoyed playing as the commander in BF2 because I was pretty good at spotting things on the map. It's even better when you play with a commander that actually knows what he's doing.

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Ow.. so no commander in BF3 then? ok..stupid..I just read the article about the Commander mode in BF3 :p

And..am I the only one who hates being able to prone? The reason I hate playing games like this are the campers... with prones, everyone would have just camped :(

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What i hope is that they release more map packs not maps already present but with different game modes like they did with the "VIP Packs" in BF:BC2

While these packs were cool, there was damn all new and refreshing maps and still isn't which i felt was pretty crappy.

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What i hope is that they release more map packs not maps already present but with different game modes like they did with the "VIP Packs" in BF:BC2

While these packs were cool, there was damn all new and refreshing maps and still isn't which i felt was pretty crappy.

Yeah, that was REALLY messed up... :/

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That's awesome news! I enjoyed playing as the commander in BF2 because I was pretty good at spotting things on the map. It's even better when you play with a commander that actually knows what he's doing.

The article is wrong as DirtyLarry and others pointed out - commander is most likely not coming back.

Who wasn't good at spotting in BF2 as commander?: right-click, spot, voila

You didn't even have to be precise when spotting on the map.

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DirtyLarry Veteran

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The article is wrong as DirtyLarry and others pointed out - commander is most likely not coming back.

Who wasn't good at spotting in BF2 as commander?: right-click, spot, voila

You didn't even have to be precise when spotting on the map.

Yeah they actually updated the article with this...

We here at Gamebandits would like to thank our community for pointing out that we got the wrong end of the proverbial stick here with this article. We are sorry for raising your hopes unnecessarily, but Commander mode will not be making a comeback in Battlefield 3. Troedsson was in fact referring to Commo Rose. The Commo Rose is a feature of Battlefield 2 that allows for faster communication with other players by allowing the selection of pre-set messages to be selected from a menu. It is this function that will be making a comeback in Battlefield 3.
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Yusuf M. Veteran

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The article is wrong as DirtyLarry and others pointed out - commander is most likely not coming back.

Who wasn't good at spotting in BF2 as commander?: right-click, spot, voila

You didn't even have to be precise when spotting on the map.

What I meant was actually spotting things on the map like friendly troop movement, etc. It's a shame commander mode isn't coming back. I was really looking forward to it.

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