ViperAFK Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 electrolysis is still in the planning stages. No way it makes firefox 5, probably won't make 6 either. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593926754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted April 26, 2011 Veteran Share Posted April 26, 2011 Yeah, it won't make 6, at the very earliest they're looking at 7 or 8 to get the first implementation. And 64bit still isn't supported, since there's still bugs holding it up (One missing feature was just implemented a couple of days ago, but it's just a base for other features) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593929286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zlip792 MVC Posted April 26, 2011 MVC Share Posted April 26, 2011 http://www.tomsguide.com/us/mozilla-firefox-developer-beta-aurora-browser,news-10961.html I agree Mozilla need dedicated blog, which is not very technical and tell us about every update in Aurora and Nightly builds. Mozilla should also try to simplify all plans for users and Make FF 5 aurora to FF 4.5 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593929424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinaun Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=23 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593930422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexkeyboard Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Looking better by the days. That's why I still use 3.6 and skip ff4 like I did with vista :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593930568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zlip792 MVC Posted April 26, 2011 MVC Share Posted April 26, 2011 Is Mozilla working on Restart less addon stuff? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613294 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593930572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Looking better by the days. That's why I still use 3.6 and skip ff4 like I did with vista :) Firefox 4 is miles ahead of firefox 3.6. Why one earth would you skip it? Is Mozilla working on Restart less addon stuff? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613294 Some addons already don't require a restart. I can't think of any specific examples right now though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593930612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexkeyboard Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Firefox 4 is miles ahead of firefox 3.6. Why one earth would you skip it? Beside the lame HA implementation compare to IE9's, FF4 TM+JM doesn't make FF4 feel any faster than FF3.6 even if it perform better in benchmark. Beside, some of the important addons I use still work better in 3.6 than it is in 4.0. I'll wait for 4.0.1, but I guess 5.0 is likely the next update as they have copied Chrome's numbering scheme. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593931140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoapyHamHocks Member Posted April 27, 2011 Member Share Posted April 27, 2011 Some addons already don't require a restart. I can't think of any specific examples right now though. Quite a few https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/tag/restartless Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593931822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted April 27, 2011 Subscriber² Share Posted April 27, 2011 Beside the lame HA implementation compare to IE9's, FF4 TM+JM doesn't make FF4 feel any faster than FF3.6 even if it perform better in benchmark. Beside, some of the important addons I use still work better in 3.6 than it is in 4.0. I'll wait for 4.0.1, but I guess 5.0 is likely the next update as they have copied Chrome's numbering scheme. Firefox 4.0.1 is due very soon actually. IMHO there is no reason to skip 4.0, as it is a solid browser release and giving 3.6 a run for its money. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593931834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udedenkz Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Firefox 4.0.1 is due very soon actually. IMHO there is no reason to skip 4.0, as it is a solid browser release and giving 3.6 a run for its money. Major advantages of FF3.6 over FF4.0 include better scrolling performance and better GIF performance. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593931848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisalem Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Major advantages of FF3.6 over FF4.0 include better scrolling performance and better GIF performance. That's because your computers are kind of slow. Have you tried disabling HW acceleration? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593931948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udedenkz Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 (edited) That's because your computers are kind of slow. Have you tried disabling HW acceleration? I don't have slow computers, all of my computers can run Oblivion, but I digress, Yes. Additionally I tried IE9 with HW enabled and it is blazing fast. Additionally I tried Chrome and it is blazing fast. Additionally I tried Opera and it is blazing fast. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593932472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayscale Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I don't have slow computers, all of my computers can run Oblivion, but I digress, Yes. Additionally I tried IE9 with HW enabled and it is blazing fast. Additionally I tried Chrome and it is blazing fast. Additionally I tried Opera and it is blazing fast. Yep, lots-a-Gifs->"opens chromium" for me too but I rarely visit websites filled with gifs so no problems here. Anyway, any links where Fx crawls (one that isn't just filled with gifs for the purpose of filling it with gifs)? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593932484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frylock86 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 You should be upgrading browsers. Don't sit on old versions. Bad security practice. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593932522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayscale Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I'm no longer using 3.x but they still provide security updates, right? Or is it the last? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593932540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
articuno1au Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Yeah, 4.x is the next security patch :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593932562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frylock86 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Nothing like getting pwnd by a hole that has been fixed with the next version. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593932590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Major advantages of FF3.6 over FF4.0 include better scrolling performance and better GIF performance. That's absurd! Firefox 4 has much better smooth scrolling, especially on pages with fixed images as the background which were notoriously laggy on firefox 3. The inclusion of layers makes scrolling much more efficient and firefox 4 doesn't have to constantly redraw the page like firefox 3. Sounds like a bug on your machine if its slower. Scrolling has noticeably smoother on my machines, especially on my lowest end one (laptop, 2ghz core2duo, hd2600) http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roc/archives/2010/07/retained_layers.html Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593933134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udedenkz Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 That's absurd! Firefox 4 has much better smooth scrolling, especially on pages with fixed images as the background which were notoriously laggy on firefox 3. The inclusion of layers makes scrolling much more efficient and firefox 4 doesn't have to constantly redraw the page like firefox 3. Sounds like a bug on your machine if its slower. Scrolling has noticeably smoother on my machines, especially on my lowest end one (laptop, 2ghz core2duo, hd2600) http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roc/archives/2010/07/retained_layers.html On all *three* of my machines. Also both of these are confirmed bugs. Also the scrolling performance regression happened after retained layers. Retained layers themselves increased performance. I now use Yet Another Smooth Scrolling because it makes keyboard scrolling faster which visually decreases noticeable stuttering. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593933550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trag3dy Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 On all *three* of my machines. Also both of these are confirmed bugs. Also the scrolling performance regression happened after retained layers. Retained layers themselves increased performance. I now use Yet Another Smooth Scrolling because it makes keyboard scrolling faster which visually decreases noticeable stuttering. I used to use YASS extension, but it was causing my scroll stuttering problem. Then I switched to: http://smoothwheel.mozdev.org/ And it's 100% better in every way, for me at least. Solved all the problems I had with scroll stutter. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593934480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyang Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 For these scrolling extensions, specifically the keyboard up/down scroll, is there a way to disable that slight delay that occurs before the page really starts scrolling? I don't like having to press and hold the up/down button for a second before the scrolling starts. I'd rather it happen as soon as I press it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593934548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udedenkz Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Stutter is not YASS related for me. I installed YASS to try to hide it. Additionally, unlike Chrome, Firefox likes to keep the cursor interacting with the web page elements when scrolling. IE: Scroll over (cursor must be aligned so it would find itself over Services) Services and it will try to render the opened down Services menu, which laggs scrolling. For these scrolling extensions, specifically the keyboard up/down scroll, is there a way to disable that slight delay that occurs before the page really starts scrolling? I don't like having to press and hold the up/down button for a second before the scrolling starts. I'd rather it happen as soon as I press it. Just tried smoothwheel and that delay is not good, same delay on 6.0 and 5.0... I like the way Chrome does it. Good step size, instant response, no acceleration, and no smoothing. ...For arrow key scrolling, mouse wheel scrolling is OK. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593934810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poom Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Popup dialogues are now specific to the tab and no longer prevents you to switch to another tab or close the tab! That's pretty awesome, especially with all those spam popups that prevent you from leaving. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593936096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trag3dy Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Stutter is not YASS related for me. I installed YASS to try to hide it. Additionally, unlike Chrome, Firefox likes to keep the cursor interacting with the web page elements when scrolling. IE: Scroll over (cursor must be aligned so it would find itself over Services) Services and it will try to render the opened down Services menu, which laggs scrolling. Just tried smoothwheel and that delay is not good, same delay on 6.0 and 5.0... I like the way Chrome does it. Good step size, instant response, no acceleration, and no smoothing. ...For arrow key scrolling, mouse wheel scrolling is OK. That's strange then, I don't have any sort of delay when I start scrolling. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/980176-meet-firefox-50/page/14/#findComment-593936462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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