updates Meet the browser: Firefox Next

[bogas04]

See, thoses are nice and innovating mockups.

You says that devs are too busy copy/pasting Chrome? Come on ...

sarcastic?

Anyways , if you do not know what the devs are busy with , please don't assume anything just like that please... They have this IonMonkey base ready and up on arewefastyet , incrementalGC in progress , Profile clean up , and VARIOUS snappy and memshrink projects worked on and landing to nightly... What i have told is just about performance , rest UI related stuff is also fixed now and then (inline autocomplete , new tab page , download manager)

New Tab Page is landing again for tomorrow's nightly , lets see...

[Anthonyd]

sarcastic?

Anyways , if you do not know what the devs are busy with , please don't assume anything just like that please... They have this IonMonkey base ready and up on arewefastyet , incrementalGC in progress , Profile clean up , and VARIOUS snappy and memshrink projects worked on and landing to nightly... What i have told is just about performance , rest UI related stuff is also fixed now and then (inline autocomplete , new tab page , download manager)

New Tab Page is landing again for tomorrow's nightly , lets see...

They lost many times to create this new tab page, instead they should have followed the mockup imo.

[bogas04]

They lost many times to create this new tab page, instead they should have followed the mockup imo.

why don't you apply for CEO of Mozilla :/

[Anthonyd]

I'm already part of the mozilla fundation. ;)

[dnast]

I like the mock-ups (Y)

[remixedcat]

should be coming soon, there are a list of things that need to be done for it to be more native.

1. Page bounce when scrolling

2. Lion scrollbars

3. page forward and back animation

These are just a few above the surface elements as there are things that still need to be done below to increase performance on OS X.

Yet another Smooth Scrolling adds the page bounce! They can easily build this into Fx

[trag3dy]

They lost many times to create this new tab page, instead they should have followed the mockup imo.

I don't care for the one in the mockups. It's too busy and full of information I don't care to see. Not everyone wants a visual overload like that. So I don't think they've lost anything.

[remixedcat]

it's like the start screen in metro though... information at a glance.... I like it.

[Anthonyd]

I don't care for the one in the mockups. It's too busy and full of information I don't care to see. Not everyone wants a visual overload like that. So I don't think they've lost anything.

You are obviously confusing the new tab page and the home tab, which means that you didn't took more than few sec to read the full article.

[V23]

So, is there (or are they eventually going to implement) a way to pin bookmarks to the new tab page instead of your history (top sites)? If not, it's pretty useless for me in its current state.

[ViperAFK]

So, is there (or are they eventually going to implement) a way to pin bookmarks to the new tab page instead of your history (top sites)? If not, it's pretty useless for me in its current state.

Yeah, thats my current criticism with chrome's new tab page too. Opera's had it right for ages with speeddial, which is super customizable. Why do all the other browsers insist on not letting you customize that page at all?

[mancode20]

Firefox 10 is amazing!! They FINALLY fixed the responsiveness! I am noticing a significant difference in the way pages scroll. It's smooth now without jerking (using one of the great smooth scrolling extensions, SmoothWheel, or Yet Another Smooth Scrolling) and switching tabs feels so fast and smooth, even when I have a lot of tabs open. They need to work on two major things now: re-adding the smooth sliding animation when moving tabs, and making the browser not stutter and slowdown when starting or finishing a download. That happens sometimes. Those are the major hurdles I hope they fix soon. I'd also like multi-row tabs and multi-row bookmark toolbars without having to use user styles or extensions. The upcoming speed dial like feature built in will be a welcome addition as well. They are definitely heading in the right direction.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

The slowdown when downloading a file is due to your virus scanner (or malware scanner, etc.), you can disable that in about:config (If your AV is any good then it'll still scan the file)

[mancode20]

The slowdown when downloading a file is due to your virus scanner (or malware scanner, etc.), you can disable that in about:config (If your AV is any good then it'll still scan the file)

Yeah, I remember someone telling me that before. I forgot what I have to change or add. I'm using Security Essentials. Is that good enough for it to still scan?

[V23]

Yeah, I remember someone telling me that before. I forgot what I have to change or add. I'm using Security Essentials. Is that good enough for it to still scan?

Can't answer your last question, however I'm running MSE and just disabled the post-download scan by:

1. Typing about:config in the address bar

2. Searching for 'browser.download.manager.scanWhenDone' and setting it to false

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

If you're worried about your AV not picking it up after changing that setting, try the EICAR test file.

http://www.eicar.org/86-0-Intended-use.html

I remember when MSE first came out it was pretty bad at detecting that (letting you download it and open it), hopefully it's gotten better (or it could simply be that they don't scan for that on purpose)

[aznkid25]

Have Aurora 12 builds been posted yet? Can't find them anywhere.

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Have Aurora 12 builds been posted yet? Can't find them anywhere.

It has been marked... Today`s Nightly patch will bring us to 13.

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Startup improvement in FF13:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=722315

5% improvement...

Good..

[arrrgh]

Addons that use content policies (Adblock, No Script) break some flash objects at the moment so folks who use nightlies may want to stick to previous builds until bug 723154 is fixed.

[bogas04]

https://wiki.mozilla...ning/2012-02-01

:D

UX & User Research

• Australis project has feature pages, is getting staffed:
  
  • Tab_Strip_Visual_Redesign
    
  • Features/Desktop/Panel_Menu
    
  • Toolbar_Customization
    
  • Arrow_Panel_Redesign
    

  [*]Basic research on Translation feature done, designs coming soon

  [*]Metro UI (Win 8) design work in progress

  [*]URL Autocomplete landed!

  [*]New download manager about to land (and/or has landed), still some known issues

  [*]New tab refinements continuing, landed on Nightly (preffed off)

  [*]Home tab in UX branch has launch targets for Bookmarks/History/Downloads, and Apps in the future

I don't know if its true but it seems like they want firefox to look like chrome clone

[Kirkburn]

Rounded tabs =/= Chrome clone, since that's about the only thing similar in that screenshot.

Chrome does not entirely fade out background tabs, does not have vertical bar separators, does not have a 'new tab' button in that style. But I guess having rounded tabs makes it a copy, as opposed to just being a pleasant design paradigm that Chrome uses. Never mind that tabs come in all shapes and sizes in the real world.

[bogas04]

Rounded tabs =/= Chrome clone, since that's about the only thing similar in that screenshot.

Chrome does not entirely fade out background tabs, does not have vertical bar separators, does not have a 'new tab' button in that style. But I guess having rounded tabs makes it a copy, as opposed to just being a pleasant design paradigm that Chrome uses. Never mind that tabs come in all shapes and sizes in the real world.

If tabs on top created an image that all browsers (FF , opera and now ie) are copying chrome , i bet rounded tabs will definitely activate numerous rants and trolls...

[Semtex]

Personal I don't like that mockup , but Firefox is flexible browser in that part, so get old look will be not a problem :D

[ViperAFK]

The tabs in that mockup are ugly as hell. Square tabs please. I don't mind chrome's rounded tabs, but for some reason the ones in that mockup just look horrible.