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one problem is 64-bit firefox doesn't support netflix html5 yet, so without silverlight no netflix.

 

does anything even still support Silverlight anymore? o_0 I thought Microsoft was finally killing that one off

ah there's my answer

 

That is not a reason to not release the 64-bit version to the stable channel... People's 32-bit Firefox installs would not be upgraded to 64-bit and then their Netflix stops working. One would have to go out of their way to install the 64-bit version. A warning that Netflix won't work would suffice.

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Netflix won't currently work in Firefox without Silverlight anyways regardless of 32-bit or 64-bit Firefox (stable channel). It appears to be working fine in 32-bit Nightly where they're testing it though.

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I'd say that Microsoft killed off Silverlight with the introduction of Edge, problem is all the sites that used it when MS pushed it, now have to re-write all their sites to work properly (Apparently Silverlight was quite popular for media services, so a bunch of TV broadcasters only have Silveright web players, and currently Firefox is the only browser that works with them) 

one problem is 64-bit firefox doesn't support netflix html5 yet, so without silverlight no netflix.

Yeah, Mozilla have been waiting on Adobe for a 64bit CDM (And unless there's any unforeseen delays, it should be released alongside 42), and Netflix devs have been working with the Mozilla media team to make sure it works (42 also has the re-write of the MSE implementation that fixed nearly all the playback issues, it's now dumb stuff like people breaking WMF on their computers, so Firefox takes longer than usual for an API call, so Netflix times it out, etc.)

Adobe are also working on a CDM for OS X, so soon enough OS X users will be able to watch Netflix too. Isn't DRM great?

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I know this is off-topic, but it's still hard for me to believe this one topic has been going on for 4 years straight! Is there any other thread on here that has gone on the same amount of time or longer?

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I'd say that Microsoft killed off Silverlight with the introduction of Edge, problem is all the sites that used it when MS pushed it, now have to re-write all their sites to work properly (Apparently Silverlight was quite popular for media services, so a bunch of TV broadcasters only have Silveright web players, and currently Firefox is the only browser that works with them) 

Yeah, Mozilla have been waiting on Adobe for a 64bit CDM (And unless there's any unforeseen delays, it should be released alongside 42), and Netflix devs have been working with the Mozilla media team to make sure it works (42 also has the re-write of the MSE implementation that fixed nearly all the playback issues, it's now dumb stuff like people breaking WMF on their computers, so Firefox takes longer than usual for an API call, so Netflix times it out, etc.)

Adobe are also working on a CDM for OS X, so soon enough OS X users will be able to watch Netflix too. Isn't DRM great?

Yeah, it appears as though we traded a poorly supported microsoft plugin, for a poorly supported adobe plugin xD

at least a cdm is much smaller in scope then silverlight or flash and leaves everything but the drm part to the browser's native capabilities.

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Sad, I had to use Modernizr.inputtypes['date'] for IE and Firefox and use JS date picker.

Also, Firefox needs to implement swipe left and right for back and forward - keep forgetting that it doesn't.

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could someone fix these links up? there all broken

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https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Planning

https://blog.mozilla.org/meeting-notes/

https://arewefastyet.com/

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/beta/all/

https://nightly.mozilla.org/

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/#developer

 

 

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Updated the Nightly build on my PC, and it started downloading the 64bit Adobe CDM.

I was expecting netflix to work now, but I guess not yet.  Still asks for a silverlight plugin that firefox doesn't support.

 

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Looks like something has slipped with a Mozilla Partner, so while 42 will have a official 64bit release, it doesn't look like Mozilla is going to make it publicly available on the website, it'll only be available from their FTP server.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1181014#c24

Looking forward to an official 64-bit release even if it isn't advertised as such. I would guess the "partner" is Adobe/Flash which I don't have installed anyway so I don't care :D

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not having an official 64bit firefox build out is only gonna hurt Mozilla in the short term an possibly ther long term also, as people will just go over to Pale Moon or Google Chromes 64bit , personally though i dont care as i dont use Windows

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Ehhh, I don't think the majority of people really care, actually.

The majority of people don't even know what it means. They just use whatever the default download is. For Chrome that is still 32-bit as far as I can tell. You have to manually select the 64-bit download if you want it when I just checked.

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Looking forward to an official 64-bit release even if it isn't advertised as such. I would guess the "partner" is Adobe/Flash which I don't have installed anyway so I don't care :D

I don't think it's Flash (Originally Flash was an issue since the 64bit plugin was a separate download, Adobe bundled them ages ago though), it's probably something like the CDM. Or maybe Netflix are delaying their native player launch, so Mozilla needs to keep Silverlight around for another release.

Ehhh, I don't think the majority of people really care, actually.

For most people having a 64bit release means not having the "* 32" in the task manager.

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What ######## idiot thought this was a good idea,

Only available to code blocks in HTML wrapped in a <script type="application/javascript;version=1.7"> block (or higher version). Beware, however, that as this is a non-standard feature, this will most likely break support for other browsers.

from this page https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Statements/let and seems supported by https://kangax.github.io/compat-table/es6/

Great

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