SaltLife Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I do not like the idea of being locked out of an upgrade, especially something like a hdd. That being said: I would like to see the technical specifications on why they have. chosen this route. Does the new imac get hotter, therefore require a more accurate sensor? Is this in some way a begining to create a `lock-out`for osx86 users Or is it that they want to capitalize on the few who may upgrade their system... I don't know what their plan is with this, but like others said... the new system is a pain to take apart so im sure it wont affect too many users.. And those whom it does, well at least now we know and can make an informed purchasing decision. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Go for MS. Problem Solved. Period. Microsoft dont make computers, Windows is completely different than OSX. Try again. This is a non issue really :/ Not many people will actually crack their iMac open to replace the HDD (it's a lot more complicated than it sounds). Just the fact that you have to remove the glass and lcd is enough to stop a lot of people (including me and I've always built my computers before going switching to OSX) So once its out of warranty you just throw the machine away? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltLife Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 That analogy is failed because in the real world of computers you can replace your hard drive. Is that true for all machines? Including laptops and other all in ones.. I personally have not found one I can't replace(a few I wish I hadn't) but I don't know I would say they all are like that... Hmm, gonna check on those all in one hps and vaios Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooky560 Veteran Posted May 12, 2011 Veteran Share Posted May 12, 2011 It depends how much you need the upgrade, my friend's parents have an iMac from 2006 they haven't upgraded because it does what they want Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 It depends how much you need the upgrade, my friend's parents have an iMac from 2006 they haven't upgraded because it does what they want Its not just upgrades what if your HDD fails, you cant buy a standardised sata hdd you have to buy apples overpriced non-standard one. Damian, Duffydemon and forlorn 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooky560 Veteran Posted May 12, 2011 Veteran Share Posted May 12, 2011 Does this change only affect the new Sandy Bridge iMacs? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del-Funky Smelly Be. Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Microsoft dont make computers, Windows is completely different than OSX. Try again. So once its out of warranty you just throw the machine away? Dude everybody knows that. But you can get customization you need which in this case is no Restriction on Hard Drive. :sleep: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeEsquire Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 So once its out of warranty you just throw the machine away? Isn't that how it is for all things that break out of warranty? My Dell broke last year and it was out of warranty. I couldn't figure out what's wrong so I just threw it away and bought a new PC. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Heartripper Subscriber¹ Posted May 12, 2011 Subscriber¹ Share Posted May 12, 2011 Or maybe a hackintosh that destroys the iMac for specs. This is the best solution, but you'll have some problems finding the correct drivers and stuff. :shiftyninja: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted May 12, 2011 Veteran Share Posted May 12, 2011 You mean that contrary to Apple's iPhone / iPod / iPad where nothings replaceable, your Android/WP7/Nokia has upgrade/replaceable inner parts which you can upgrade/replace by yourself ? you completely missed the point, I am talking about apple products ONLY, they started the trend on not able to replace batteries in cell phones / mp3 players... I am saying watch them make all their products this way including high end lines oh and I can put SD cards in android / windows phone and nokia cells, where's the expandable memory in the iPhone? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 So once its out of warranty you just throw the machine away? Because everybody knows you can only boot from internal drives. /s :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Thats a nice way to stereotype a large group of people, you dont have to be rich to buy something. I was saving up for a Mac but if this is the direction they are going for ill just spend it on a PC that lets me interchange parts. Or maybe a hackintosh that destroys the iMac for specs. A hackintosh is not really comparable to an all in one :/ (unless you were planning on building an all in one....in that case I'm REALLY impressed and I want to see it ;)) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Dude everybody knows that. But you can get customization you need which in this case is no Restriction on Hard Drive. :sleep: Do you even have a clue? So you would choose a Windows computer purely for the fact that you can change the HDD even though you were buying a Mac for OSX????????????? A hackintosh is not really comparable to an all in one :/ (unless you were planning on building an all in one....in that case I'm REALLY impressed and I want to see it ;)) Believe it or not some people dont buy computers just for the pretty shiny cases, i want OSX and i can only legitimately get that on a Mac. Because everybody knows you can only boot from internal drives. /s :rolleyes: Wow really?????? If you buy USB2 you get reduced performance, if you buy a 'Thunderbolt' HDD you are paying over the odds for new technology. Wouldnt be easier just to go buy a ?40 1Tb HDD and replace it rather than a ?200 1Tb thunderbolt drive, you think it would but then this is Apple after all. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phouchg Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Mac users don't care, so they deserve this for their ignorance. LimeMaster and forlorn 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Wow really?????? By the time your hard drive fails and your Mac is out of warranty, Thunderbolt won't be overpriced. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 By the time your hard drive fails and your Mac is out of warranty, Thunderbolt won't be overpriced. Really? I had 4x 2Tb Western Digital HDDs fail within months of each other because of a Manufacturing defect and they were only 6 months old, please give me your crystal ball that will tell me which HDD will fail or not. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Really? I had 4x 2Tb Western Digital HDDs fail within months of each other because of a Manufacturing defect and they were only 6 months old, please give me your crystal ball that will tell me which HDD will fail or not. Hence the "and your Mac is out of warranty". Which, if you're smart and buy AppleCare, is three years. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Believe it or not some people dont buy computers just for the pretty shiny cases, i want OSX and i can only legitimately get that on a Mac. I agree with you but it's also the reason you can't compare an iMac vs Hack directly (obviously the hack will be cheaper) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 You shouldnt HAVE to buy Apple Care just to get peace of mind, so after gouging you for the cost of a machine you then have to spend another ?150 just so you arent stuck with a useless machine when it inevitably breaks. My old PC was nearly 5 years old, a part breaks and if its out of warranty i can go buy the cheapest relatively specced peice of hardware. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Its not just upgrades what if your HDD fails, you cant buy a standardised sata hdd you have to buy apples overpriced non-standard one. What are you talking about? There's a standard Western Digital SATA HDD inside my iMac. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I agree with you but it's also the reason you can't compare an iMac vs Hack directly (obviously the hack will be cheaper) I wasnt comparing them? I didnt say anything about price comparison, all i said was if Apple wants to go in this direction i will take the money i was going to spend on a Mac and buy a better PC for 'iHack' i dont care about all this Aluminium Unibody crap that everyone thinks is the best thing ever. What are you talking about? There's a default SATA HDD inside every iMac. Did you even read the original post? They changed the power connector to non-standard one. I was saving up for a mac so it would have been a Sandybridge one i bought...... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phouchg Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Hence the "and your Mac is out of warranty". Which, if you're smart and buy AppleCare, is three years. Paying ******** for warranty is smart? Ok, no comments necessary. They made this stuff right for you. They care for you.And Macs do not break anyway, because they're pricey and that must mean quality. Or you're using it wrong. /s LimeMaster 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Did you even read the original post?They changed the power connector to non-standard one. I was saving up for a mac so it would have been a Sandybridge one i bought...... Sorry, I thought I was posting in a different thread. Just saw it. That sucks... :/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Star Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Mac users don't care, so they deserve this for their ignorance. Nice ignorance. You think all the buyers are all ignorant? You must be out of your mind. :rolleyes: I wonder how ideas like these are thought up? *working on the new iMac* Engineer 1: We need ideas people! Come one! Engineer 2: I got one. Why don't we lock down our hardware so users can't change their harddrives with others, so we can make money selling them new ones! Engineer 1: My god! Your a genius! Steve will like this! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Nice ignorance. You think all the buyers are all ignorant? You must be out of your mind. :rolleyes: Not everyone just the Apple iSheep and apologists. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996868-apple-restricts-hard-drive-replacements-on-new-imacs/page/3/#findComment-593980252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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