[Official] Xbox Series X & Series S Discussion

[George P Global Moderator]

Hype levels growing, new Halo Infinite box art?

 

 

[Sszecret Veteran]

It is indeed the box art.

 

 

 

More gifs and such here.

[George P Global Moderator]

  On 22/07/2020 at 13:51, Sszecret said:

It is indeed the box art.

 

 

 

More gifs and such here.

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People saying that's a grappling hook on his left arm, is it though?  

[dipsylalapo Supervisor]

  On 22/07/2020 at 15:39, George P said:

People saying that's a grappling hook on his left arm, is it though?  

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Definitely looks like some kinda launcher. 

[George P Global Moderator]

  On 22/07/2020 at 16:01, dipsylalapo said:

Definitely looks like some kinda launcher. 

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If true it does make things interesting as far as gameplay goes.

[dipsylalapo Supervisor]

So something that Nadella mentioned in the earnings call yesterday,  "the largest launch line-up for any console ever". Source

 

That's a seriously bold claim, roll on 5pm.

 

Also a few details about Forza 8 have leaked.

 

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Headlines

• Devs targeting 4K at 120FPS with ray tracing. GT on PS5 was aiming for 60FPS with ray tracing. This also seems very high, so huge pinch of salt.
• Devs are also going for quality over quantity. To me means fewer cars/tracks but immense details
• Feb 2021 release. Disappointing that it isn't launch
• Rally racing. Be cool to see this in Turn10's more serious racer
• Plus a bunch of other features

  • New tire pressure model.

  • Dynamic track temperatures.

  • New atmosphere pressure system, affecting air density, dynamics, and power.

  • Redesigned suspension system With ned modeling.

  • New Ranked online system.

  • New Integrated online Ghosting System. (evolution of Forza 7 late addition)

  • Tracks Have full Day and night cycles depending on race length/Track.

  • Rubber in on tracks.

  • New heat interaction with tire pressure.

  • Expanded race capacity.

  • Off-road racing on land or gravel.

  • Rally races will also be present.

  • Clubs Return

Source

 

[Sszecret Veteran]

  On 23/07/2020 at 07:48, dipsylalapo said:

So something that Nadella mentioned in the earnings call yesterday,  "the largest launch line-up for any console ever". Source

 

That's a seriously bold claim, roll on 5pm.

 

Also a few details about Forza 8 have leaked.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

Headlines

• Devs targeting 4K at 120FPS with ray tracing. GT on PS5 was aiming for 60FPS with ray tracing. This also seems very high, so huge pinch of salt.
• Devs are also going for quality over quantity. To me means fewer cars/tracks but immense details
• Feb 2021 release. Disappointing that it isn't launch
• Rally racing. Be cool to see this in Turn10's more serious racer
• Plus a bunch of other features

  • New tire pressure model.

  • Dynamic track temperatures.

  • New atmosphere pressure system, affecting air density, dynamics, and power.

  • Redesigned suspension system With ned modeling.

  • New Ranked online system.

  • New Integrated online Ghosting System. (evolution of Forza 7 late addition)

  • Tracks Have full Day and night cycles depending on race length/Track.

  • Rubber in on tracks.

  • New heat interaction with tire pressure.

  • Expanded race capacity.

  • Off-road racing on land or gravel.

  • Rally races will also be present.

  • Clubs Return

Source

 

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I think in "largest launch line-up for any console ever" he's including all of the backwards compatible games which will in fact be playable at launch on Series X. Happy to be proven wrong though.

Re: Forza, I have a sneaking suspicion that it's all hands on deck to help 343 finish Halo Infinite in time for launch, which is why Forza Motorsport 8 could have been moved back from launch day, if the leak is true. With Halo being so important and Microsoft heavily promoting DiRT 5, I can see this definitely being the case.

 

Also a fun a little thing, in case you missed the 'Exclusive' voiceover from E3:

 

[dipsylalapo Supervisor]

  On 23/07/2020 at 08:12, Sszecret said:

I think in "largest launch line-up for any console ever" he's including all of the backwards compatible games which will in fact be playable at launch on Series X. Happy to be proven wrong though.

Re: Forza, I have a sneaking suspicion that it's all hands on deck to help 343 finish Halo Infinite in time for launch, which is why Forza Motorsport 8 could have been moved back from launch day, if the leak is true. With Halo being so important and Microsoft heavily promoting DiRT 5, I can see this definitely being the case.

 

 

 

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Yeah a little sneaky. I have a feeling that's what they're going with. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that I'll be able to play all those games day one on the Series X, but I would have hoped that phrase would have been reserved for actual games launching day 1. Just me being pedantic. 

 

Love that voiceovers people! I saw something over at Neogaf. It's the Xbox Event drinking game, you take a shot every time you hear "World Exclusive" or "World Premiere" 

[spaceelf]

  On 23/07/2020 at 08:12, Sszecret said:

I think in "largest launch line-up for any console ever" he's including all of the backwards compatible games which will in fact be playable at launch on Series X. Happy to be proven wrong though.

Re: Forza, I have a sneaking suspicion that it's all hands on deck to help 343 finish Halo Infinite in time for launch, which is why Forza Motorsport 8 could have been moved back from launch day, if the leak is true. With Halo being so important and Microsoft heavily promoting DiRT 5, I can see this definitely being the case.

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Probably games that were Xbox One X enhanced that will be updated day one to be better on the new console as well.

[George P Global Moderator]

  On 23/07/2020 at 08:19, dipsylalapo said:

Yeah a little sneaky. I have a feeling that's what they're going with. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that I'll be able to play all those games day one on the Series X, but I would have hoped that phrase would have been reserved for actual games launching day 1. Just me being pedantic. 

 

Love that voiceovers people! I saw something over at Neogaf. It's the Xbox Event drinking game, you take a shot every time you hear "World Exclusive" or "World Premiere" 

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It has to be said that the CEO talking up Xbox should be a big indication of how committed to it MS is considering how rough the Xbox One went.

 

As far as the FM8 rumors.    

 

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As far as the bit about it going for 4k @ 120fps, well, they got FM7 running at 60fps on the original Xbox One, and it does 4k@60 on the One X iirc, so I really don't see it as being hard for them to actually do.  Racing games are special in that you can squeak out more FPS with crafty tricks because of the nature of racing in general.  When the environment is zipping past you so fast, you're not going to notice if the stuff to the sides is lower res then the rest.  I think FM8 will rely heavily on VRS.  So it wouldn't surprise me if they somehow manage to hit 120fps.

 

[Sszecret Veteran]

  On 23/07/2020 at 08:29, LostCat said:

Probably games that were Xbox One X enhanced that will be updated day one to be better on the new console as well.

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I think besides Kinect, all Xbox One games are backwards compatible, and it honestly would be pretty stupid of them to not include the One X Enhanced versions, where available. It'd just be work that's wasted.

  On 23/07/2020 at 08:41, George P said:

It has to be said that the CEO talking up Xbox should be a big indication of how committed to it MS is considering how rough the Xbox One went.

 

As far as the FM8 rumors.    

 

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As far as the bit about it going for 4k @ 120fps, well, they got FM7 running at 60fps on the original Xbox One, and it does 4k@60 on the One X iirc, so I really don't see it as being hard for them to actually do.  Racing games are special in that you can squeak out more FPS with crafty tricks because of the nature of racing in general.  When the environment is zipping past you so fast, you're not going to notice if the stuff to the sides is lower res then the rest.  I think FM8 will rely heavily on VRS.  So it wouldn't surprise me if they somehow manage to hit 120fps.

 

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I think the growth of Game Pass has a lot to do with this, and as far as FM8 is concerned, if they can achieve 4K 120FPS with DXR (DirectX Raytracing) on, that'd be quite the looker as far as racing games go, and that's saying something.

[spaceelf]

  On 23/07/2020 at 08:59, Sszecret said:

I think besides Kinect, all Xbox One games are backwards compatible, and it honestly would be pretty stupid of them to not include the One X Enhanced versions, where available. It'd just be work that's wasted.

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Yes.  I was suggesting they will be updated with better content, not just updated to work.  The PC versions are already likely capable of more than the X1X can do in some cases.

[dipsylalapo Supervisor]

6 hours of work to get through

[George P Global Moderator]

  On 23/07/2020 at 09:40, LostCat said:

Yes.  I was suggesting they will be updated with better content, not just updated to work.  The PC versions are already likely capable of more than the X1X can do in some cases.

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Even without doing much the X1X versions of games should just run smoother and load quicker on the XSX, so that's something.   I don't know how much work they'll put into them yet again, maybe adding some VRS and ray tracing to spice them up but I think it'd be better to let teams work on the next wave of games than to just touch up titles that are already 3 or 4 years old.

[spaceelf]

  On 23/07/2020 at 10:06, George P said:

Even without doing much the X1X versions of games should just run smoother and load quicker on the XSX, so that's something.   I don't know how much work they'll put into them yet again, maybe adding some VRS and ray tracing to spice them up but I think it'd be better to let teams work on the next wave of games than to just touch up titles that are already 3 or 4 years old.

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For more recent stuff I could easily see Gears of War 5, Hellblade, State of Decay 2, Crackdown 3, and The Outer Worlds getting a content update.  I doubt they all will, but a good chunk of them wouldn't surprise me.

[George P Global Moderator]

  On 23/07/2020 at 11:27, LostCat said:

For more recent stuff I could easily see Gears of War 5, Hellblade, State of Decay 2, Crackdown 3, and The Outer Worlds getting a content update.  I doubt they all will, but a good chunk of them wouldn't surprise me.

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So far I know they said Gears 5 will, don't know about the others.  Crackdown 3 was pretty much a flop so I think they'd rather forget about that game.  😛

[spaceelf]

  On 23/07/2020 at 11:37, George P said:

So far I know they said Gears 5 will, don't know about the others.  Crackdown 3 was pretty much a flop so I think they'd rather forget about that game.  😛

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By traditional sales metrics maybe, but I'd bet a whole lot of Game Pass players loved it.

 

It wasn't the best Crackdown game ever but it was still very much worth playing. 

[George P Global Moderator]

Under an hour to go for the pre-show, wonder what surprises we'll see there?

 

 

[George P Global Moderator]

So much talk about Xbox Live Gold being dropped and MP going free on console, would be a huge move if true.

[George P Global Moderator]

Some more ways to follow the event.

[dipsylalapo Supervisor]

  On 23/07/2020 at 14:10, George P said:

So much talk about Xbox Live Gold being dropped and MP going free on console, would be a huge move if true.

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To be honest, since the introduction of Gamepass it has become a little muddier. 

 

We now essentially have 4 tiers right?

• Silver/Free (let's you chat or something I think)
• Gold - MP, games/deals with gold
• Gamepass - Netflix for games (but no MP)
• Gamepass Ultimate - Gold and Gamepass combined.

With the introduction of xCloud, that could muddy the water further, so a streamline would be welcome!

[George P Global Moderator]

Pre-show started but the sound and vid are out of sync for me.  heh.

[George P Global Moderator]

Well, Dragon Quest 11 coming to Xbox looks like.  Will be part of Game Pass.   OH but it's a updated version, DQ11 S.  I thought it looked different from my version on PC.

[George P Global Moderator]

 

December 4th.

[George P Global Moderator]

Showing off some more Watch Dogs Legion right now, nothing much new.